Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by eggwheat » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:37 am

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It doesn't have the coil splits which is a bummer but I have about 100 single coil guitars already so... haha.

I never knew that. Thought they all had it. I'm sure it could be retrofitted should you want it since the pickups are the same.

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

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eggwheat wrote:
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It doesn't have the coil splits which is a bummer but I have about 100 single coil guitars already so... haha.

I never knew that. Thought they all had it. I'm sure it could be retrofitted should you want it since the pickups are the same.
Yeah, one of those funny design quirks we'll never know the answer for. I understand differentiating the models at the time but it seems weird to have less features on the "upgrade" model.
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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:28 am

eggwheat wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:37 am
OffYourFace wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:25 am
It doesn't have the coil splits which is a bummer but I have about 100 single coil guitars already so... haha.

I never knew that. Thought they all had it. I'm sure it could be retrofitted should you want it since the pickups are the same.

From the pics I've seen of the wiring, it doesn't appear that the pickups have the multi-conductor cable to do it.
have a look: https://reverb.com/item/34309904-yamaha ... 0-1979-red

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:37 am

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Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:25 am

Yeah, one of those funny design quirks we'll never know the answer for. I understand differentiating the models at the time but it seems weird to have less features on the "upgrade" model.
probably cuz Carlos Santana said, "I don't need that shit" Lol

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by eggwheat » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:15 am

OffYourFace wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:28 am
eggwheat wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:37 am
OffYourFace wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:25 am
It doesn't have the coil splits which is a bummer but I have about 100 single coil guitars already so... haha.

I never knew that. Thought they all had it. I'm sure it could be retrofitted should you want it since the pickups are the same.

From the pics I've seen of the wiring, it doesn't appear that the pickups have the multi-conductor cable to do it.
have a look: https://reverb.com/item/34309904-yamaha ... 0-1979-red
Damn..maybe not then!

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by stevejamsecono » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:11 pm

OffYourFace wrote:
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Yeah, one of those funny design quirks we'll never know the answer for. I understand differentiating the models at the time but it seems weird to have less features on the "upgrade" model.
probably cuz Carlos Santana said, "I don't need that shit" Lol
Lol. Yeah, coil taps ain't smooth sounding. :shifty:
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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by shadowplay » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:57 am

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The red one I just bought only weighs 9.6 lbs. so that's not too bad. It doesn't have the coil splits which is a bummer but I have about 100 single coil guitars already so... haha.

I was psyched that he took $1300 for it. But with the new Reverb and CA tax laws, I paid $120 tax (and $50 shipping).
I was supposed to buy a nice 1981 brown sunburst SG2000 locally for $1700 but the buyer sold it yesterday morning. Then a few hours later I saw this red one on Reverb. It all worked out 8)

What's weird is that I found the same red SG2000 on RockNRoll Vintage's website as a sold item. It was listed for $1995. I'm not sure if it sold for that much and how long ago it sold.

This is the exact guitar I bought:

https://rocknrollvintage.com/listing/31466440
I love them, though I only own a related model a (tapped) SA1200S semi which (whisper it so they don't hear) I probably like more than my Gretches. I really liked it before but I really like the playing of the guitarist in Second Still (who totally nail the sound IMO and the sound I sought as pup in the early 80's) and plays a 335 and I found my Yamaha hit that post punk spot perfectly and easily with my JC and BOSS lineup when if I'm honest the Gretsch are little too stately to want to conjure swirls and squalls, they are more swans gliding around while the SA is a peregrine falcon in a dive. Sadly that guitar is in another house and I've not seen it for 3 months but I hope to soon. I often look at SG1000's, the guitarist in my early 80's goth band played a 500 while wanting a 1000 and I always loved playing it, though if I could find the right SA1200 for sale I fancy putting Filtertrons in one as a way of unifying my spheres as it were, I also fancy that one having a Bigsby but I'd have to get it plugged and refinished on top to do that since I can't be bothered with that ugly Vibramate fuss and bother.

Btw on the taps...I've always found them the only ones that actually do something I'd want, I really hope yours has them.

The thing about Yamaha SG's is I don't really like the looks, i mean they look better than a Gibson SG which is too horned god for the loafer goth likes of me or is that it's just the wrong horned god, the potbellied be-chapped horned god of shuttlecock down the troosers rawk. Yeah not fond of the looks but I am fond of their fitness for purpose and no nonsense nature, I was going to say they are the Range Rover 3 Doors of guitars but I'd have to admit a Yamaha is better built!

I'd also say that some of the rawk undesirables getting into them as discussed in the past with Eggwheat kinda puts me of, or perhaps I'm just not able to transcend such knobbery, though you could say that about all the utter tools with offsets these day.

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:54 pm

Nice David! You’ve got me slightly GASing for one of those now haha.

It has arrived and it is great! No coil taps but that’s ok. It’s got the sustain and bottom end of a Les Paul and the clarity of an SG. I’ve got many great Fenders for the single coil sound.
I was missing my Les Paul but I can’t really afford the type of want. This SG2000 was a great bargain and it’ll go up in value.

Oh and it weighs 10.6 lbs according to my scale. I was really hoping it weighed 9.6 but hey what’s an extra pound? :(

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by stevejamsecono » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:37 am

OffYourFace wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:54 pm
Nice David! You’ve got me slightly GASing for one of those now haha.

It has arrived and it is great! No coil taps but that’s ok. It’s got the sustain and bottom end of a Les Paul and the clarity of an SG. I’ve got many great Fenders for the single coil sound.
I was missing my Les Paul but I can’t really afford the type of want. This SG2000 was a great bargain and it’ll go up in value.

Oh and it weighs 10.6 lbs according to my scale. I was really hoping it weighed 9.6 but hey what’s an extra pound? :(
Yep, that matches what I remember and boy is it an appealing sound. Girth with cut.

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by MayTheFuzzBeWithYou » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:48 am

With all the petitions against police violence, to save the planet from climate crisis... I also stumbled across this:
https://www.change.org/p/yamaha-corpora ... e_petition

...it‘s a start at least. Let‘s see, what happens! :)

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:07 pm

MayTheFuzzBeWithYou wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:48 am
With all the petitions against police violence, to save the planet from climate crisis... I also stumbled across this:
https://www.change.org/p/yamaha-corpora ... e_petition

...it‘s a start at least. Let‘s see, what happens! :)

Edit for missing letters.
I talked to them about doing a reissue back in 2015-2016. They're not a company that likes 'to go backwards'. But it would be pretty cool...

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:08 pm

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And what happened to your LP? Sorry to hear it's not with you anymore.
I sold it to a family friend back in 2016-17 to buy some modular synth pieces :shifty:

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:20 pm

Found another listing of my SG2000. This was 6 months ago. https://reverb.com/item/30638012-yamaha ... 8-wine-red

Pretty funny. This guitar has been passed around a bit. So here's a quick update. I like the guitar, it sounds great. It's a bit heavy but it's ok. The one thing that bugs me is the 'fog' under the finish. It's everywhere and it's pretty ugly. You can't see it that well in pics but in person it's very obvious.

From my days of working with TSP, I have a good relationship with the Yamaha USA custom guitar dept. Their chief builder Pat is a friend of mine and the most talented luthier I know. He's gonna help me get this refinished in nitro. :w00t:

Do I stay with the red? hmmmm...

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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by stevejamsecono » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:42 pm

OffYourFace wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:20 pm
Found another listing of my SG2000. This was 6 months ago. https://reverb.com/item/30638012-yamaha ... 8-wine-red

Pretty funny. This guitar has been passed around a bit. So here's a quick update. I like the guitar, it sounds great. It's a bit heavy but it's ok. The one thing that bugs me is the 'fog' under the finish. It's everywhere and it's pretty ugly. You can't see it that well in pics but in person it's very obvious.

From my days of working with TSP, I have a good relationship with the Yamaha USA custom guitar dept. Their chief builder Pat is a friend of mine and the most talented luthier I know. He's gonna help me get this refinished in nitro. :w00t:

Do I stay with the red? hmmmm...
Yeah that seems pretty common. My SL650 was pristine when I first got it and within a year of sweaty show-playing the fog was in full effect... pretty disappointing.

That's awesome though! Should be well worth it.
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Re: Yamaha SG(2000,1000,etc.) Appreciation Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:49 pm

Good news. I just looked at the SG2000 pickups and noticed they do have an unused terminal underneath them. All I have to do is add a new shielded single conductor cable to each pickup and buy a pair of push-push pots. I can easily wire this up like an SG1000 8)

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