NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
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NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
I've waffled between having a semi-hollow and a hollow-body for awhile. Over the last several years I've had some old Yamaha hollows, a beat old Ultrasonic, a Japanese Epi 335, an MP Starcaster, and a couple of Zaftigs. Coronados have really stuck with me as a hollowbody option, but I'd never had a chance to play one. Design-wise, sometimes I think they look really interesting, at other times sort of awkward, but I tend to think that of most archtops. And, of course, while there are fans, the online chatter about the resonance and pickups offer really mixed reviews. I used to have a Coro neck on a JM body, however, and loved that. Several videos also convinced me that a Coro might be a viable option, particularly this one of Ira Kaplan with a gorgeous yellowed CAR one. I thought I might have the opportunity to try one at CME early next year. Then one popped up online in a color that was appealing. I grew up near there, and managed to hunt down the pawn shop where it was residing and work out a deal. So this '67 showed up the day after Thanksgiving:
Everything looks original on it, with the exception of the case, the switch tip (which disintegrated in shipping), one of the footing covers for the trem unit, and one of the intonation screws for the bridge. I'm assuming this is IBM rather than the rarer FMS, but either way it's lovely. Unplugged it rings out nicely The pickups sounded quite good too, and when I adjusted the pickup poles and added a shim, they were considerably better—sweet, full, harmonically-rich tones.
Luckily I had band practice that night for the first time in forever and was quickly shown that 1) whatever folks say about these, this one could definitely hold its own on stage 2) it sounded amazing through my effects, and 3) it would howl feedback like a blue-green banshee given the opportunity. #3 is ok for my purposes.
I'm still undecided whether I'll ultimately settle on a hollow or a semi-hollow, but this one is a good time.
More fun pics.
Everything looks original on it, with the exception of the case, the switch tip (which disintegrated in shipping), one of the footing covers for the trem unit, and one of the intonation screws for the bridge. I'm assuming this is IBM rather than the rarer FMS, but either way it's lovely. Unplugged it rings out nicely The pickups sounded quite good too, and when I adjusted the pickup poles and added a shim, they were considerably better—sweet, full, harmonically-rich tones.
Luckily I had band practice that night for the first time in forever and was quickly shown that 1) whatever folks say about these, this one could definitely hold its own on stage 2) it sounded amazing through my effects, and 3) it would howl feedback like a blue-green banshee given the opportunity. #3 is ok for my purposes.
I'm still undecided whether I'll ultimately settle on a hollow or a semi-hollow, but this one is a good time.
More fun pics.
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Re: NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
Ha. I agree with you about the look of these. Sometimes awesome sometimes not so much. Your's is a beauty!
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I think they are great- congratulations!
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Re: NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
Happy NGD.
I think in the great world of Coronados ... not all things are equal.
I've had a '67 or '68 ... with the black bobbin pickups that are often identified as the 'less desirable' ones. Could be ... mine sounded okay, but lacking in any sort of note sustain and just a little bit plinky plonky. Not terrible at all ... just not for me. I like Casinos/ES330s - things with P90s that have a bit more body to the sound, so almost by design Coronados aren't really for me.
In terms of neck shape it was actually lovely - and once I'd messed around with shims (the usual) I was able to get a good neck angle that worked pretty well for decent action. The guitar was a dog to play when I got it, but it ended up being pretty decent.
I guess the final thing for me was that to me it sort of sounded like a less Rickenbacker Rickenbacker - if I wanted that sound I'd be happier with a 360 or 330. If memory serves I traded that Coronado for a top bound 360 (fairly rare by Rickenbacker standards) that I liked the sound of a little more. The Rickenbacker had it's own issues (nut width) ... and it went to the trade gods a short while later.
So, at least for me, the issue with Coronados is that they're too much like a Rickenbacker to be their own thing, and if I want something hollow I'm always going to be drawn to an ES330 first. I've come to realise that old Gibson profiles from the mid-60s (the chunky wide nut neck) are my sweet spot in guitar neck shapes (mostly because they feel almost the same around the back of the neck as '63 Jazzmaster necks, which are perfect for me). That's not to say Coronados aren't good guitars ... they're just not for me. I've seen/heard people using them a hell of a lot better than I ever could, and I'd say you're probably in that same category OP
May it wear well - enjoy!
I think in the great world of Coronados ... not all things are equal.
I've had a '67 or '68 ... with the black bobbin pickups that are often identified as the 'less desirable' ones. Could be ... mine sounded okay, but lacking in any sort of note sustain and just a little bit plinky plonky. Not terrible at all ... just not for me. I like Casinos/ES330s - things with P90s that have a bit more body to the sound, so almost by design Coronados aren't really for me.
In terms of neck shape it was actually lovely - and once I'd messed around with shims (the usual) I was able to get a good neck angle that worked pretty well for decent action. The guitar was a dog to play when I got it, but it ended up being pretty decent.
I guess the final thing for me was that to me it sort of sounded like a less Rickenbacker Rickenbacker - if I wanted that sound I'd be happier with a 360 or 330. If memory serves I traded that Coronado for a top bound 360 (fairly rare by Rickenbacker standards) that I liked the sound of a little more. The Rickenbacker had it's own issues (nut width) ... and it went to the trade gods a short while later.
So, at least for me, the issue with Coronados is that they're too much like a Rickenbacker to be their own thing, and if I want something hollow I'm always going to be drawn to an ES330 first. I've come to realise that old Gibson profiles from the mid-60s (the chunky wide nut neck) are my sweet spot in guitar neck shapes (mostly because they feel almost the same around the back of the neck as '63 Jazzmaster necks, which are perfect for me). That's not to say Coronados aren't good guitars ... they're just not for me. I've seen/heard people using them a hell of a lot better than I ever could, and I'd say you're probably in that same category OP
May it wear well - enjoy!
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Re: NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
So the black bobbin pickups (DeArmond?) were less desirable? I played one once and liked it, but I also don't really like 'traditional' hollows much. That guitar looks amazing btw, would love it.
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Re: NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
That seemed to be what folk thought when I got mine (with the black bobbins). I've never played one of the earlier/full silver cover pickup Coronados, so I can't say myself.
And you're right - the OP's one looks pretty awesome.
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Gorgeous!! Just the right amount of wear.
A classic example of how magical a yellowed clearcoat is too. I mean seriously, who wants stark white binding & a pale blue guitar when you can have this utterly stunning olive green & butterscotch combo.
A classic example of how magical a yellowed clearcoat is too. I mean seriously, who wants stark white binding & a pale blue guitar when you can have this utterly stunning olive green & butterscotch combo.
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^^^This is true. My Coronado II was an amazing greened LPB and looked stunning, I just didn't play it enough to justify keeping it.
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Re: NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
Love the look and sounds of the Coronado. Would love to try one sometime.
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Cool guitars, lots of fun for not a ton of money. Maybe it's better that way
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Congratulations!
I love the Coronado. I just bought my second one, a 12-string, and love them both.
My 12 string is the full chrome pickup, beautifully underpowered for a 12 string. My 6-string has the black bobbin pickups, and sounds all growly and grisp, like a hollow body version of the Jaguar.
I hope you love yours as much as I love mine. But keep it quiet, we can't have everyone knowing how great these things are, they might get expensive.
I love the Coronado. I just bought my second one, a 12-string, and love them both.
My 12 string is the full chrome pickup, beautifully underpowered for a 12 string. My 6-string has the black bobbin pickups, and sounds all growly and grisp, like a hollow body version of the Jaguar.
I hope you love yours as much as I love mine. But keep it quiet, we can't have everyone knowing how great these things are, they might get expensive.
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Thanks, y'all, for the thoughts and info. I hadn't actually thought of these as Rickenbacker-like, but that makes sense given their origins. I've never played a Rick, but could definitely hear how the bridge pickup on the Coro would generate jangle-pop tones. I found myself picking out "Tally-Ho" while messing around with it tonight.
Does anyone know if these are magnetic screws or if there is a bar magnet? They sound a lot more like Jazzmaster pickups than I expected, or at least the neck does, maybe a bit sweeter on the front end.
Does anyone know if these are magnetic screws or if there is a bar magnet? They sound a lot more like Jazzmaster pickups than I expected, or at least the neck does, maybe a bit sweeter on the front end.
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Re: NGD aka "Why no love for the Coronado?"
The black bobbin ones are definitely adjustable magnetic polepoeces, you can see them sticking through to the other side. The chrome ones have a sealed, flat base and offhand I don't recall seeing photos of their anatomy inside.Gavanti wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:51 pmThanks, y'all, for the thoughts and info. I hadn't actually thought of these as Rickenbacker-like, but that makes sense given their origins. I've never actually played a Rick, but could definitely hear how the bridge pickup on the Coro would generate jangle-pop tones. I found myself picking out "Tally-Ho" while messing around with it tonight.
Does anyone know if these are magnetic screws or if there is a bar magnet? They sound a lot more like Jazzmaster pickups than I expected, or at least the neck does, maybe a bit sweeter on the front end.
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Careful - we might lose them by attrition if people raid them for WRHB poles
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