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Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:48 am
by spaceritual
I've just bought a Les Paul -- only an elderly Epiphone Custom --
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It's heavy for sure but not too different to one of my Jazzmasters

Sounds great and the neck feels great -- why have I never had one before.?

Except for one thing -- a question for all LP owners or past owners..... how do you put up with something so uncomfortable ?

That top edge of the body cuts into my arm and it feels like you have a paving slab under your arm.


Even a Telecaster feels more ergonomic and I hate them.
It's a pity 'cos the sound is great and it's good to play sitting down but standing up -- jesus !

Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:54 am
by mbene085
They solved that ergonomic problem 50+ years ago. It's called the SG 8)

Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:37 am
by Maggieo
mbene085 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:54 am
They solved that ergonomic problem 50+ years ago. It's called the SG 8)
:D

I love Teles, so the LP didn't bother me at all.

Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:50 am
by spaceritual
SG's are indeed the solution - however they all seem to neck dive!

Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:00 pm
by Maggieo
mbene085 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:54 am
They solved that ergonomic problem 50+ years ago. It's called the SG 8)
Thing is, I have discovered that an SG and a Les Paul are two totally different critters. I love 'em both, tho'.

Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:43 pm
by cincinnatiharry
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My Les Paul is back home, was with the luthier for a few days to get re-wired and setup for 11s.

This is a 2016 Gibson Les Paul Traditional model that was sold exclusively by Sweetwater... it’s non-weight relieved.

My goal in buying this was to have an R8 but at a lower price. Also if it was an R8 I wouldn’t want to do the mods I have done to this one. I am tone chasing with this guitar...

Presently it has Faber bridge and tail piece, VIP potentiometers, Russian PIO caps, 50s wiring, a hand carved unbleached bone nut, and Sanford Magnetics “Model 22” PAFs.
They are not wax potted like the original PAFs and the neck pickups magnets are flipped so I get the out of phase Peter Green tone in the middle position.

It’s still not “there” yet. I am trying to nail the tones one would get off a genuine ‘58 burst. However, I am getting closer. The VIP pots and 50s wiring have helped me to get closer, I have a lot more range off the VIP pots than I did with the standard CTS pots... now I get a desirable tone at every setting.

Next I am gonna try another PAF maker, maybe pay for Throbacks... I’d like something with exposed double white bobbins.

Lastly, another addition that has helped me get “that sound” is the addition of the GMR Spares “Fetoplex” preamp that’s a copy of the Echoplex preamp.

https://youtu.be/AQov3YnJgQY

All in all this time chasing is expensive and labor of love.

This is the sound I trying to get here:

https://youtu.be/vqpD1P-7dMk

And of course this sound:

https://youtu.be/Ug7oyobYONk

I only own 3 other guitars... a 2009 Gibson Firebird V (that’s getting Lollars and Bigsby, as well as 50s wiring w/ VIP pots), a Gibson J-35 acoustic, and Ural Soviet made electric guitar that 8 use for R.L. Burnside tunes.

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Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:37 pm
by Maggieo
Damn, son! That's how you do a LP! :-*

Re: I Suddenly Think I Need A Les Paul. Talk Me Out Of It.

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:17 am
by cincinnatiharry
Thanks Maggieo, always been a huge fan of your gear and photos.