Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
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Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
Hey guys.
I've been wanting a Tele for a WHILE now to add to the sonic layer before recording (seeing as I only have a KC Mustang as my only electric guitar).
I've tried the American pro the other day at a music store and it was KILLER! Sounded fantastic, felt awesome (as opposed to all the Strats I've ever tried). The problem is - I'm currently at University and can't really afford it, so I thought of going the Mexican route and adding a set of pickups and a proper setup to get what I want for half the price, but here's the big issue - I'm a lefty, and live in Israel, where the supply for lefty guitars is VERY low (my 2 Fenders are imported - the Mustang came with me on a plane from Manhattan and the Jazz bass came straight from Japan's Ishibashi). I really want to try before deciding on a Mexican Tele, but can't (and trying a right-handed one will just be absurd as I can't play as well and really get the feel for the body).
How big is a difference between these 2? other than the hardware, is the neck profiling the same? I know the trivial things such as 21 VS 21 frets but where's the real difference? (I'll have her properly set-up, fretwork included).
I'd love to hear your input on the subject!
I've been wanting a Tele for a WHILE now to add to the sonic layer before recording (seeing as I only have a KC Mustang as my only electric guitar).
I've tried the American pro the other day at a music store and it was KILLER! Sounded fantastic, felt awesome (as opposed to all the Strats I've ever tried). The problem is - I'm currently at University and can't really afford it, so I thought of going the Mexican route and adding a set of pickups and a proper setup to get what I want for half the price, but here's the big issue - I'm a lefty, and live in Israel, where the supply for lefty guitars is VERY low (my 2 Fenders are imported - the Mustang came with me on a plane from Manhattan and the Jazz bass came straight from Japan's Ishibashi). I really want to try before deciding on a Mexican Tele, but can't (and trying a right-handed one will just be absurd as I can't play as well and really get the feel for the body).
How big is a difference between these 2? other than the hardware, is the neck profiling the same? I know the trivial things such as 21 VS 21 frets but where's the real difference? (I'll have her properly set-up, fretwork included).
I'd love to hear your input on the subject!
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
The MIM guitars are nice but they have a ton of lacquer and are heavier than most teles. I would hunt down a classic vibe tele if you're on a budget.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
I have two takes on this situation, so feel free to heed/not heed either or:
1. Every time I have ever gone with "the cheaper" route on a guitar, I have not been happy. There's a difference between getting a bargain on a good piece vs. buying the half-assed version of what you want. If what you want is the American Pro, then save, get a second job, until you can get it. Simple as that. You won't regret that you got what you wanted, especially if it's something that you can play beforehand and bond with.
2. There's WAY more teles out there than just these two. There's the highway 1s (USA with a thin finish and therefore cheaper), there's Squiers, there's Japanese copies from the 80s that some say are better than vintage, etc. etc. I have to believe that if you look around enough you'll find these others in lefty configuration eventually and then maybe you'll find something in the middle that does it or you.
1. Every time I have ever gone with "the cheaper" route on a guitar, I have not been happy. There's a difference between getting a bargain on a good piece vs. buying the half-assed version of what you want. If what you want is the American Pro, then save, get a second job, until you can get it. Simple as that. You won't regret that you got what you wanted, especially if it's something that you can play beforehand and bond with.
2. There's WAY more teles out there than just these two. There's the highway 1s (USA with a thin finish and therefore cheaper), there's Squiers, there's Japanese copies from the 80s that some say are better than vintage, etc. etc. I have to believe that if you look around enough you'll find these others in lefty configuration eventually and then maybe you'll find something in the middle that does it or you.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
I think the best* Tele available at the minute is the Baja. It's Mexican made. I'd rather have it than anything thing else that's being made.
* - most Teleish Tele.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
The Baja isn't made for us lefties.
I found out the MIM series is being replaced with the new Player series, which has a lefty one as well (and in butterscotch blonde! wohoo!) with 22 frets and Alnico pickups as opposed to the outgoing Standard model with ceramic ones. It looks VERY interesting and I'll probably try it while I'm in Germany this summer.
Has anyone played those>?
I found out the MIM series is being replaced with the new Player series, which has a lefty one as well (and in butterscotch blonde! wohoo!) with 22 frets and Alnico pickups as opposed to the outgoing Standard model with ceramic ones. It looks VERY interesting and I'll probably try it while I'm in Germany this summer.
Has anyone played those>?
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
Ah, I completely missed that, sorry.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
I'm a lefty, and i bought a tele last year. it is one of the best guitars i own, if not the best. the thing about it? it's a japanese one. I would recommend an early 90s japanese telecaster. it weighs nothing, sounds exactly like a tele, and is a very well built guitar. i doubt i'll ever buy another tele, as none of them will beat this one. here's the thread from last year
otherwise, i would recommend going for the American Pro if that's the one you want, even if it means saving up a little longer. otherwise you will find yourself questioning your purchase of the MIM, and always comparing it to what you wanted.
otherwise, i would recommend going for the American Pro if that's the one you want, even if it means saving up a little longer. otherwise you will find yourself questioning your purchase of the MIM, and always comparing it to what you wanted.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
I'd recommend the Am Pro way over the Mexican. The Mex Standard Teles are decent trashy guitars but they don't have the class, the feel or the prestige of the American Fenders. The extra money is worth it.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
...I'm a lefty by the way, I've played 'em both.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
How do you quantify class and prestige?theconsultant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:06 pmI'd recommend the Am Pro way over the Mexican. The Mex Standard Teles are decent trashy guitars but they don't have the class, the feel or the prestige of the American Fenders. The extra money is worth it.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
You might want to check this out: https://youtu.be/i9HiWuFhkVI
Pretty interesting that alot of the components in the new players series are similar/same as an American made. May make your decision easier/more difficult!
My experience has generally been to go straight to the one you want, however happy you are with the cheaper one you'll always be wondering if the more expensive one is better. Having said that, I have a baja telecaster and classic player strat and I am finding it hard to convince myself the price jump to American pro/original will be worth the cost and hassle.
Good luck.
Pretty interesting that alot of the components in the new players series are similar/same as an American made. May make your decision easier/more difficult!
My experience has generally been to go straight to the one you want, however happy you are with the cheaper one you'll always be wondering if the more expensive one is better. Having said that, I have a baja telecaster and classic player strat and I am finding it hard to convince myself the price jump to American pro/original will be worth the cost and hassle.
Good luck.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
Fair enough. The American guitars feel better, they sound better, and i'd say the build quality is better. Sorry for any misunderstanding. This is going on the last Mexican Standard Tele i played about 7 years ago, i must admit. Maybe they're better now. I've had a bunch of Mexican Fenders. They're never as good as the Japanese or American guitars, in my opinion. They're a step above the Squier range, and are priced accordingly. Hope that makes sense.sessylU wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:18 amHow do you quantify class and prestige?theconsultant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:06 pmI'd recommend the Am Pro way over the Mexican. The Mex Standard Teles are decent trashy guitars but they don't have the class, the feel or the prestige of the American Fenders. The extra money is worth it.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
Based on Mexicos more recent output, there might be a case for the American lines to feel slightly nicer (rolled fretboard edges being one). But I'm not so sure about the rest of it, there's enough evidence out there these days which confirms that alot of these Mexican/American lines share much the same hardware.
My classic player is certainly the equal of the American standards I've previously had. The Baja too, without a doubt. I'd only ever consider getting rid of those for American Original equivalents, no way the pro line.
Can't speak of the Mexican standards though, I know they haven't always been as highly regarded.
My classic player is certainly the equal of the American standards I've previously had. The Baja too, without a doubt. I'd only ever consider getting rid of those for American Original equivalents, no way the pro line.
Can't speak of the Mexican standards though, I know they haven't always been as highly regarded.
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Re: Telecasters - MIM VS American Pro, buying without trying
LOL I love these types of objective descriptions. This sums up the MIM vs american vs chinese guitars... class and prestigesessylU wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:18 amHow do you quantify class and prestige?theconsultant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:06 pmI'd recommend the Am Pro way over the Mexican. The Mex Standard Teles are decent trashy guitars but they don't have the class, the feel or the prestige of the American Fenders. The extra money is worth it.
Jaguar > Jazzmaster :)
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LOL I thought this place was one of the only schmuck-free zones on the internet.leokula wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:05 pmLOL I love these types of objective descriptions. This sums up the MIM vs american vs chinese guitars... class and prestigesessylU wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:18 amHow do you quantify class and prestige?theconsultant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:06 pmI'd recommend the Am Pro way over the Mexican. The Mex Standard Teles are decent trashy guitars but they don't have the class, the feel or the prestige of the American Fenders. The extra money is worth it.
I was only trying to help, and have clarified my opinion further.