NGD - Gibson es-175

Arthon · Post by **Arthon** » Fri May 12, 2017 6:11 am

Hi folks,

It's been a long time since I wanted a proper fully hollowbody from Gibson. I have a Elilist Casino, but the neck is just to narrow for me and the P-90 are quite noisy. So I dreamed about a es-175 or 295 for a long time and when my prefered shop acquired one, I had to test it. I feel instantly for it. I put a account and took more then a month to gather the cash to buy it. I had to sell 3 amps, effects and pedals, but hey, GAS need sacrifice... I decided that I need only 3 amps, a big (Fender Vibrolux), a medium (Orange Tiny Terror) and a small (Fender Vibro-Champ). So, no more Princeton Reverb for me...

Here it is. It's a beast. It have a real acoustic feel and sound to it. The pickups are very low mellow and low outputs. The neck is big; the way I like it. The "closet classic" feel is way better then what Fender Custom Shop is doing.

Maybe not the best photo, but it's what I got...

wproffitt · Post by **wproffitt** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:28 am

Nice!
If I were to buy a Gibson, that would probably be it. I love the finish on yours and these guitars have such a nice sound in general. What pickups are in it?

nucleardonut · Post by **nucleardonut** » Fri May 12, 2017 10:44 am

That's new? Not vintage?

Arthon · Post by **Arthon** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:30 am

wproffitt wrote:Nice!
If I were to buy a Gibson, that would probably be it. I love the finish on yours and these guitars have such a nice sound in general. What pickups are in it?

I dont know. They call them Memphis Historic Specs (MHS). I think they are like underwound classic 57. In comparaison, the es-175 have less output compared to my AVRI Jazmmaster or my Casino.

Arthon · Post by **Arthon** » Fri May 12, 2017 11:33 am

nucleardonut wrote:That's new? Not vintage?

It really feels like a vintage guitar. Way more then Fender Custom Shop relic or closet classic guitars... I have nothing against closet-classic/relic CS Fender, I have a closet-classic Telecaster. It just that this Gibson feels way more like a vintage guitar should feel.

Despot · Post by **Despot** » Sun May 14, 2017 11:32 pm

Arthon wrote:
wproffitt wrote:Nice!
If I were to buy a Gibson, that would probably be it. I love the finish on yours and these guitars have such a nice sound in general. What pickups are in it?
I dont know. They call them Memphis Historic Specs (MHS). I think they are like underwound classic 57. In comparaison, the es-175 have less output compared to my AVRI Jazmmaster or my Casino.

The MHS pickups are, without doubt, the best pickups that Gibson makes right now. They're quite different to Classic 57s (pickups that I hate in anything other than an SG - for a start I'm pretty sure that the 57s are wax potted with symmetrical winding, whereas the MHS are not wax potted, or only lightly potted, and have scatter winding).

I'm not really a huge fan of Les Pauls - but I played a '58 reissue that had the new MHS pickups in it about 18 months ago ... that guitar was night and day compared to other LPs I've played (even expensive custom shop ones) ... bright and clear sounding ... more like a Telecaster on steroids than a thick/dark sounding thing. I've also played a '59 RI ES-335 and a '64 RI ES-345 that had them fitted ... those newer Memphis hollow body guitars are incredible sounding things in general, but the pickups are really the icing on the cake.

That's a great guitar Arthon - I love hollow body Gibsons, and that one is really classy.

Arthon · Post by **Arthon** » Mon May 15, 2017 7:59 am

Despot wrote:
Arthon wrote:
wproffitt wrote:Nice!
If I were to buy a Gibson, that would probably be it. I love the finish on yours and these guitars have such a nice sound in general. What pickups are in it?
I dont know. They call them Memphis Historic Specs (MHS). I think they are like underwound classic 57. In comparaison, the es-175 have less output compared to my AVRI Jazmmaster or my Casino.
The MHS pickups are, without doubt, the best pickups that Gibson makes right now. They're quite different to Classic 57s (pickups that I hate in anything other than an SG - for a start I'm pretty sure that the 57s are wax potted with symmetrical winding, whereas the MHS are not wax potted, or only lightly potted, and have scatter winding).

Really nice to know. There are not alot of information about those pickups on the web. Some shop even say that the es-175 are equipped with classic 57, but it's not true. I have a Flying V with classic 57 and there is a huge diffence in term of output between my V and my es-175. Night and day. My es-175 is my quietest guitar. So smooth and woody. My flying V is my loudest guitar with alot of mids.

Despot · Post by **Despot** » Tue May 16, 2017 12:10 am

I'm pretty sure the newest ones are MHS pickups - they still make guitars with Classic '57s (unfortunately ... sort of like how they still use those awful 490R/498T pickups on non-historic Les Paul Customs), but I'm fairly sure that anything that's an actual historic spec guitar will have MHS as 'standard'. So, a '63 ES345 will have MHS pickups (historic spec) whereas a non-historic ES345 will have Classic 57s.

I'm aware of this because my favourite ES guitar is a modern custom shop ES355 (the birthday guitar). It has '57 Classics in it that are ... okay. They're not amazing, and not terrible ... they're fine. The same pickups sound great in SGs, but I've yet to find a hollow body Gibson (with 57s) that doesn't benefit from a pickup-ectomy. I'm in the process of trying to find an old '60s patent number to go with the other old '60s patent number I've kept 'just in case' so that I can yank the pickups out of the ES355 and replace them with vintage pickups. I love the pre-t-top and late '60s patent number pickups - for some reason they always seem to sound pretty consistent whenever I try them.

Anyway ... long detour ... congrats on the guitar again Arthon! It's a beauty!

andy · Post by **andy** » Tue May 16, 2017 6:57 am

Amazing guitar! Colour me jealous !!

shadowplay · Post by **shadowplay** » Tue May 16, 2017 11:29 pm

That's really bonny looking, congratulations.

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Maggieo · Post by **Maggieo** » Fri May 19, 2017 3:56 pm

Gorgeous, simply lovely.

I hope you're working on your Steve Howe riffs and solos...

mgeek · Post by **mgeek** » Fri May 19, 2017 4:23 pm

Maggieo wrote:Gorgeous, simply lovely.

I hope you're working on your Steve Howe riffs and solos...

Gotta love a spot of The Syndicats, yeah!

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marqueemoon · Post by **marqueemoon** » Fri May 19, 2017 4:33 pm

I dunno. Needs Robo-tuners.

Maggieo · Post by **Maggieo** » Fri May 19, 2017 8:14 pm

mgeek wrote:
Maggieo wrote:Gorgeous, simply lovely.

I hope you're working on your Steve Howe riffs and solos...

Gotta love a spot of The Syndicats, yeah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAJLZ8bgFNE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dammit.

Now see what you've done? An entire evening listening to Bo Diddley sides.

Arthon · Post by **Arthon** » Sat May 20, 2017 3:21 pm

Maggieo wrote:Gorgeous, simply lovely.

I hope you're working on your Steve Howe riffs and solos...

I didnt know at all that Yes guitarist was playing with a es 175... My father will be happy to know

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