Is that a finished Jag on page 9?

rank · Post by **rank** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:29 am

I love that color. Those pick guards are interesting. Where would you get such a guard & what would it be made of?

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:40 am

clef051 wrote:I love the look, does the green show up depending how you look at it?

Yes - it's changing a lot as the clear coats go on and the surface smooths out. This is it in the sunshine:

rank wrote:I love that color. Those pick guards are interesting. Where would you get such a guard & what would it be made of?

Not really sure yet...I'd love to be able to laminate my own sheets with the colour right through, but it's impossible to get the right ABS stock, I think. I don't like the look of clear guards printed underneath, so I'm looking into Direct to Media UV printing - probably on black 1-ply with square (not bevelled) edges. Only question would be whether it will be a durable enough surface. Any ideas more than welcome!

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:05 am

Actually, I might have just figured this out...

I think I can lay up 3 crossed layers of veneer like a (very thin) skateboard, then do the stripes as a marquetry top layer and keep the whole thing to 2.4mm thick, and hopefully it'll be strong and stable enough not to warp. Lacquer it nice and smooth to minimise splinters!

Or if anyone UK has an old sb deck with multi-coloured ply they're willing to donate to the cause i have another idea

But must avoid this hideousness!

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:54 pm

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:19 pm

I'm going to have a go at laminating a sheet with vertical strips of colour - it won't be very strong, so I'm not sure how usable it will be, but I want to give it a try. I ordered a bundle of 20 0.6mm veneer scraps in 20 different colours, and a pack of skateboard veneer offcuts that are 1mm thicker:

Cut them all down to about 20mm wide on the bandsaw:

And rigged up a horizontal press ready to start glueing them together tomorrow. I'm using one of gerhard Richter's digital prints as a (very) rough guide...

UlricvonCatalyst · Post by **UlricvonCatalyst** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:52 pm

theworkoffire wrote:I'm using one of gerhard Richter's digital prints as a (very) rough guide...

My first thought was Jim Lambie (ripping off Bridget Riley). Any way you look at it, it'll be a work of art....and fire.

PorkyPrimeCut · Post by **PorkyPrimeCut** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:28 pm

Nice subtle nod to Sonic Youth, using some of Richter's work as a reference point

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:14 am

Ha! Hadn't thought about either of those references, but yes! Love those Jim Lambie floor pieces.

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:37 am

Hilariously, after about an hour last night of getting the order of colours exactly the right kind of random, I dropped them trying to take them all out of the press at once.
In the end I just more-or-less shuffled them back together and started glueing up, small piles at a time:

Some lovely squeeze-out:

The full block now curing. Hope this works!

I started imagining what a neck made out of this stuff like the old Framus ones would be like...might give it a go this summer. Would want a painted headstock, though, to tone things down a bit from the front.

Steadyriot. · Post by **Steadyriot.** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:03 am

Oh man, a Framus style neck like that would be amazing!

With the rigidity of the pickguard in mind; maybe laminate a thin layer of (clear) plastic on the bottom. Like the material they use on acoustics (that even sticks itself!).

Shadoweclipse13 · Post by **Shadoweclipse13** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:40 am

I love everything about this. That headstock

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:23 am

Steadyriot. wrote:Oh man, a Framus style neck like that would be amazing!

With the rigidity of the pickguard in mind; maybe laminate a thin layer of (clear) plastic on the bottom. Like the material they use on acoustics (that even sticks itself!).

I'm going to try with a thin layer of maple underneath, with the grain at 90 degrees, first - I'm hoping that will at least hold everything together, and will be able to expand and contract a bit. Stupidly, I chopped all the veneer sheets I had to make the slivers for this, so I've just ordered some more.

The more I look at that Framus neck the more it seems like a good idea

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:21 am

This is the block planed down to clean up most of the edges - it's 20mm thick, and seems incredibly strong. I'm going to try to cut it across the thickness, somehow, so I can get two guards out of it. Any ideas how? At the moment I'm imagining going into all 4 sides with my table saw, then just using a hand saw to get to the middle bit that that won't reach. It won't leave me much to play with once the table saw blade width has had its fill...5-6mm tops, but I want the guard 3mm max, so it should be ok.

Con-Tiki! · Post by **Con-Tiki!** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:21 am

The table saw thing sounds dangerous.
It's too late now, but i might have laminated that stuff half the needed width, re-sawed it on the band saw, and glued them up to get the pickguard width.
My idea only yields one guard blank though.
Afterwards, maybe you can double-sided-tape it to a pice of ply and feed it through the planer?
A thickness sander would be even better, if you have one.

Something else that might work, would be to glue those strips together layed on an angle. 30 or 45 degrees to your work surface, The stripes would be wider, but it would be more like a scarf joint once it was planed/sanded.
Clamping pressure becomes a problem, i guess.

fun to think about though.

theworkoffire · Post by **theworkoffire** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:29 am

Con-Tiki! wrote:The table saw thing sounds dangerous.
It's too late now, but i might have laminated that stuff half the needed width, re-sawed it on the band saw, and glued them up to get the pickguard width.

That was my original plan but I forgot! I think I originally decided against it because I wasn't certain I could get a good enough invisible joint glueing two thin halves together. Also. my bandsaw is rubbish, so I'd have had to do it in 3...

My friend up the road has a thickness sander, so hopefully I'll be able to finish things on that. Plan is to clean this up on the sander, laminate a cross-ply of veneer top and bottom, then slice it across and clean up the new faces on the sander again, giving me two blanks. Fun and games!

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