Re: Behind-the-bridge Pickup projects
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:46 pm
dang it now I want one of those so bad.
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Won't that be defeating the purpose of the BTB pickup?... or are you only concerned with the portion of the strings between the two bars at either end of the Tele bridge plate?WonderCouncil wrote:....Here is a picture I had mocked up that kind of explains it.
Thanks, and I'll try to find time to whip up some sound clips today if I can.WonderCouncil wrote:That is freaking awesome Sinuata! I love to heard some sound clips as well.
I have a couple questions though...I'm getting ready to mount a Tele bridge exactly like you have. I'm curious how far behind the bridge you have the Tele plate set, and how exact you figured out where to place it to get the perfect 4th tuning.
First things first, those sound clips are awesome! Very very good work man, better then I could have done hah.Sinuata wrote:So your diagram makes it look like the stings are going under, and held down by, the front rod, but actually you say they're going over? So the purpose of the front rod is just to hold down the intonation screws, so that you can string under the saddles, and presumably get more tuning range while keeping a good break angle both over the front bridge and under the tele saddles? And the full string length between the front bridge & tele saddles is ringing? It's a good idea, but I'm not sure it's necessary...
Really nice! If I were you I'd put a stereo jack in that guitar and wire the BTB p'up to the second channel so you can process it separately. It'd give you a great 'wall of sound' kinda thing.Sinuata wrote:Okay, here are some clips. The pickups are disconnected from the pots right now so I was able to record the isolated sound of both the neck mini-humbucker and the BTB pickup simultaneously, so you can compare them. They're all recorded direct and dry. Don't mind the shitty playing; they're just to demo the sound
some random strums both in front of and behind the bridge:
both pickups together
neck only
BTB only
and a couple of ditties. All the playing is in the normal in-front-of-bridge position so the BTB stuff is just sympathetic.
sway neck
sway BTB
sway both
cinnamon neck
cinnamon BTB
cinnamon both
I'm just happy you could actually decipher what I was trying to convey hah. I agree with though and from the pictures it appears like your way of doing it works. That was my only concern...that you may get to the point where bringing the BTB saddle more forward, you lose contact with the string it self. Thus defeating the purpose of the saddle. I was thinking that you'd have to raise the BTB saddle so high that it'd end up being even with the front bridge. If that makes sense...but your pictures prove me wrong...which I'm more then happy about lol.Sinuata wrote:WonderCouncil, like I said, your idea is good and I hope you try it out. Everything you say is correct AFAIK but I do think that you'll find you don't need as much break over the front bridge as you expect, and you might actually end up wanting less break, to increase the ringing BTB when you hit the main strings. I've presently got the BTB saddle for the low E moved forward as far as possible (it can just barely get a perfect 5th) and it's still okay. I was surprised, too. The break angle behind the tele saddles seems to be more important, but I've still got a bit of room to spare there, too.
I've received the pickup this week, so I just need to do some measuring and submit my specifications to Mr Rhoney for his next round of plate making (which he hinted might be soon)michaeldwatson wrote:Hey natthu any word on the faux stop plate? I'm looking forward to that haha
Oh cool! Well I can't wait to see it finishednatthu wrote:I've received the pickup this week, so I just need to do some measuring and submit my specifications to Mr Rhoney for his next round of plate making (which he hinted might be soon)michaeldwatson wrote:Hey natthu any word on the faux stop plate? I'm looking forward to that haha