Mystery tuner search

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Mystery tuner search

Post by threewordname » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:09 pm

I'm looking for a strangely specific type of tuner that might exist, but probably not.

I'm looking for a decently made drop in replacement for something like this:
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But with the vintage style slotted posts. Also, I don't want to pay more than $60.

Does this exist?

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Re: Mystery tuner search

Post by epizootics » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:37 pm

Do you mean something with the same casing/screw location but a vintage-style split shaft on the other side?

I don't think those will cover the screw holes, but if your issue is the spacing of the tuners, seems like those G&L tuners are what you're after:

https://g-l-online-store.myshopify.com/ ... -hand-only

(and they're exactly $60!)

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Re: Mystery tuner search

Post by threewordname » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:43 am

Yes, split shaft is what I meant.

Full story: I have a custom build with a neck from a squier strat that plays surprisingly nice, but the tuners are kinda terrible. Ideally I'd want something with the same footprint as the one in the photo. I have the split shaft tuners on my tele and I like them alot.

If I'm drilling new screw holes, I wouldn't mind using the full vintage style tuners. Since I don't have digital calipers, I'm not sure what I'd be getting myself into. Are there usually spacing issues with that switch?

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Re: Mystery tuner search

Post by Horsefeather » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:36 am

Consider that Squier Strats come to a fork in their production line where they might go left to become modern Standards or they might go right to become Classic Vibes or Vintage Modifieds, which use the old style tuners.

I would bet my life it was iocain powder. Er, I mean I would bet they all get the same holes drilled in them.

In fact I have both types on hand and I just measured them with a flexible tailors tape and found the distance between E posts to be 120mm on the old style neck and 121mm on the modern style. That 1mm discrepancy could well be measuring error and even if it's accurate, you should be good to go as it favors your intention to swap.

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Re: Mystery tuner search

Post by mortron » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:08 am

I have a Squier 51, 2006 or so made in Indonesia. The stock tuners looked very similar to yours but had two little nipples that indexed on the body. Not sure if it had screws too or not.

The standard proper upgrade path IIRC was to use the Vintage style Gotoh tuners with 10mm adapter bushings as the tuner holes on the Squier are 10mm. Most vintage tuners were 8 point something so you had to buy a set of 10mm bushings on top of the tuner.

In my case, I took some existing Gotoh like the ones in your original post because I had them and was impatient. I suspect they too are under 10mm, and foolishly installed them 10 years ago. I've since added a shim of copper tape to snug them up in the 10mm holes... Not ideal really and totally wish I went the other route with the Vintage Gotoh and adapter bushings. Especially since over tightening the nut on the Gotoh leaves an indent that I don't think will be hidden by Vintage tuners now.

TL:DR - if you can do the vintage style, and use adapter bushings, that's the way to go. Especially if you want split shafts.

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Re: Mystery tuner search

Post by Horsefeather » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:53 am

I think the coolest tuners available now are the Kluson Revolutions. They are modern sealed units that are styled to resemble the old ones and they have split shafts and 19:1 ratio.

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Re: Mystery tuner search

Post by mortron » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:06 pm

Horsefeather wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:53 am
I think the coolest tuners available now are the Kluson Revolutions. They are modern sealed units that are styled to resemble the old ones and they have split shafts and 19:1 ratio.
Woah!

$62 CANADIAN... Well under OPs budget and look like they'd fit the bill. Haven't seen those before. Good call.

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