Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

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Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by RoséBear » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:15 pm

Would this screw up the action/tuning/anything with the trem if I were to round off these square parts slightly? I figured it would give the trem a smoother feel. Thoughts?

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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by Danley » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:18 pm

There’s a thread with info on how specifically to sand/file these - will need to find that, but ‘rounding’ will NOT work. You have to be acute on one side or the other. I forgot which. Warning: though this is basically the only way to fix some of the recent crap MIJ and Squier units short of pivot replacement, it is also REALLY easy to screw it up worse.

If your trem is solid tuningwise but you just want a diff. feel don’t do it. This is really only to be done on a trem that doesn’t stay in tune.
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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by RoséBear » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Danley wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:18 pm
There’s a thread with info on how specifically to sand/file these - will need to find that, but ‘rounding’ will NOT work. You have to be acute on one side or the other. I forgot which. Warning: though this is basically the only way to fix some of the recent crap MIJ and Squier units short of pivot replacement, it is also REALLY easy to screw it up worse.

If your trem is solid tuningwise but you just want a diff. feel don’t do it. This is really only to be done on a trem that doesn’t stay in tune.
Interesting! Thanks for the info. Any clue as to where to buy more of those plates? I wanted to experiment some

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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by Danley » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:44 pm

RoséBear wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:37 pm
Danley wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:18 pm
There’s a thread with info on how specifically to sand/file these - will need to find that, but ‘rounding’ will NOT work. You have to be acute on one side or the other. I forgot which. Warning: though this is basically the only way to fix some of the recent crap MIJ and Squier units short of pivot replacement, it is also REALLY easy to screw it up worse.

If your trem is solid tuningwise but you just want a diff. feel don’t do it. This is really only to be done on a trem that doesn’t stay in tune.
Interesting! Thanks for the info. Any clue as to where to buy more of those plates? I wanted to experiment some
When I ruined one filing it various ways, I posted and asked please very nicely on this forum to get a replacement ;) Curious if anyone knows a place to buy separately but I do not (and they aren't all interchangeable between MIJ/Squier/AVRI etc.) I urge you to experiment, but they seem very particular about the pivots being sharp and true, otherwise the whole assembly goes out of whack (I've filed three or four)
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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by RoséBear » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:19 pm

Danley wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:44 pm
RoséBear wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:37 pm
Danley wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:18 pm
There’s a thread with info on how specifically to sand/file these - will need to find that, but ‘rounding’ will NOT work. You have to be acute on one side or the other. I forgot which. Warning: though this is basically the only way to fix some of the recent crap MIJ and Squier units short of pivot replacement, it is also REALLY easy to screw it up worse.

If your trem is solid tuningwise but you just want a diff. feel don’t do it. This is really only to be done on a trem that doesn’t stay in tune.
Interesting! Thanks for the info. Any clue as to where to buy more of those plates? I wanted to experiment some
When I ruined one filing it various ways, I posted and asked please very nicely on this forum to get a replacement ;) Curious if anyone knows a place to buy separately but I do not (and they aren't all interchangeable between MIJ/Squier/AVRI etc.) I urge you to experiment, but they seem very particular about the pivots being sharp and true, otherwise the whole assembly goes out of whack (I've filed three or four)
So I may or may not have tried filing it as I posted these. I’ll post a picture and you can tell me if you think I screwed it up. They’re not round per say, but they’re not as sharp. Am I already screwed haha?

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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by Danley » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:22 pm

Honestly it's so sensitive I could never tell by looking - I just had to install and check which I suggest you do. Very minute differences changed the operation of the vibrato.
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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by RoséBear » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:26 pm

Danley wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:22 pm
Honestly it's so sensitive I could never tell by looking - I just had to install and check which I suggest you do. Very minute differences changed the operation of the vibrato.
Thanks Danley! So how’s the best way to tell? Just put the assembly back together and goof with it? Can you usually tell without having the strings on if it’s not gonna work,

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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by timtam » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:59 pm

What the pivot is supposed to look like ...
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 8#p1507248
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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by andy_tchp » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:10 pm

You'll only know by stringing it back up to pitch and trying to use it, but I'd bet 'softening' the edges will likely lead to less precise operation and stability.
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Re: Sanding contacts on jaguar/jazzmaster tremolo

Post by RoséBear » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:31 pm

So I strung it up and started goofing around with it. Not having any problems at the current. Would it not stay in tune as well? It feels fine to me.

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