supersonicjazzmaster wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 3:43 am
I thought this could be maybe interesting for this thread?
Got my blue CIJ 2002 Jaguar from the rehearsal room.
Checked the color with my ´97 Jagstang. So take a look at the pics to see the difference in colors.
The Jag is a sonic blue I guess...? In reality it looks a bit like the prototype pics were Kurt playing it.
Thank you for chiming in!
Yup, it's indeed interesting for this thread.
As I've wrote in the wrap-up on my last update, there are still problems identifying the actual colour of the prototype.
One thing I forgot to mention is that -for some reason- during the first run of production, Fender Japan seems to have changed the paint dealer, so.. the first batch of the distinctive -let's call it- "aqua blue" has been replaced by the later -japanese- sonic blue we're all so familiar with.
Probably they were labelled the same, but we know for a fact that the Japanese colour counterparts doesn't always match the original USA.
Your very hi-quality pics give me indication of a few things:
A) If the colour of your CIJ 2002 Jaguar is faithful to what you see with your bare eyes, then I can tell you that it does perfectly match my sonic blue CIJ 2004-2005 Mustang I've posted earlier in the thread as per reference together with the jagstang-done-right in Daphne blue.
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 0#p1560105
I can assure you that in person said Mustang is undeniably identical to the shade of your Jag your hi-res pic. That counts
UNLESS your matching headstock Jaguar is one of the special run finished in Daphne.
B) If your CIJ is Daphne. then your 97 jagstang should be sonic blue (2nd batch of paint, the real sonic blue, nor "aqua") and if we compare your guitar family pic with my counterpart in the link, the difference in shade between Daphne/Sonic Blue are compatible with each other.
Still, the colour of your jagstang looks too green to my eyes and it confuses me.
supersonicjazzmaster wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 3:54 am
For me this pic down here is also interesting because of the colors. Mustang-Jagstang-Jaguar
If we remember what Kurt wrote, he wants "surf green", the 1997 Jagstang is not so bad.
Kurt actually wrote "aqua blue/green like old mustang" which is not surf green but a faded daphne. Yet, the colour of your 97 jagstang could be possible, even thou the jaguar next to it, looks closer to the prototype. You know.. take two pictures, change environment light of a tiny bit and you'd get all sorts of dramatic change.
Me and AcrylicSuperman are still discussing this intricate subject and we came to the conclusion that even if even we establish the coordinates of this first batch of alleged "aqua blue" finished jagstang, being the prototype body being painted in the USA leaves us in the open water due to the fact that, I reiterate this again, Fender USA at that time used both Duco 2804 (daphne) and Duco 2295 (sonic blue, the real one, which is different than its Japanese counterpart), hence.. the guitar couldn't have been Sonic Blue for that fact that it would have look unmistakably light compared to the sonic blue of Cobain's RI Mustangs that have been finished in Japan with a Japanese "sonic blue".
So... The real prototype could only have been USA Daphne or a special custom batch of paint based matching the description Cobain wrote in his polaroid sketch.
Keeping in mind that is impossible to use online pics as reference due to factors such as: different finishes, different country of manufacture, aging process, light influence and god only knows what else you can put in the mix, whichever results you'd get would still be in the realm of "yup, that colour is close enough."
Our only feasible move is, if you can and have the chance to, to take your guitar in a paint store, they can scan the finish in a split second and give you a result that could identify a specific car model/year, to which we can then see if could have been my speculated "custom batch" finish Fender USA might have used to finish the prototype body. It's really our last option to sort this last bit of the puzzle.