New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by countertext » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:01 am

Uh-oh, this is getting good!

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Rgand » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:23 am

That does it! That's a beautiful solution. I'm really interested, now. This change makes it possible to have a lower height. Different height saddle sets (only 4 needed as pointed out by Timtam) would complete the offering.

Looking forward to seeing these available.

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by MechaBulletBill » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:32 am

I'll take two! :w00t: :w00t: it looks great!

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Deed_Poll » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:36 am

Telemnemonics wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:54 am
So, does the locking screw thread into a nut underneath?
Doesn't look like there's any nut in there.
Or does the set screw wedge the saddle in place to lock it?
And without pushing the saddle up when tightened?
Exactly right, it's counterintuitive but it works nicely on the other bridge I have with the same system. It counts on the saddle being a good tight fit in its track left-to-right. My design currently leaves 0.05mm, that's about a thousandth of an inch either side, so we'll wait and see how well that works.

One way to imagine it might be to picture a set screw going horizontally across the saddle and jamming it in that slot left-to-right. That's basically what I'm doing here, only I'm driving it in at 45° and using the 45° edge of the cone tip to provide that surface. It won't touch the bottom of the saddle channel, only the side. In theory I could cut the lower saddle channel (the channel within the channel) as a hole right the way through, and it should still work.

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Gavanti » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:56 am

Subscribed. The new version looks much more practical for adjustments. If the design eliminates bridge and saddle sinking, it would offer a significant advantage in a low friction version, especially if you can keep the cost down comparatively. I really like that the edges of the bridge base are lower, reducing the possibility of a string catching them when rocking, which I think was a missed opportunity on the Staytrem design.

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by mbene085 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:59 am

Great solution, I have absolutely no criticisms at this point after that revision. It looks like something I'd be happy to use.

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by PorkyPrimeCut » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:18 pm

Great seeing this evolve as the day goes on. Here's where a community of like-minded people really makes a difference.
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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Deed_Poll » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:36 pm

PorkyPrimeCut wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:18 pm
Great seeing this evolve as the day goes on. Here's where a community of like-minded people really makes a difference.
Absolutely right! It's such a huge benefit to have an online community like this. I can roughly explain what's going on in the morning and within 24hrs I have the full spectrum of opinions, experience and suggestions from the people who know most about this specific thing!

What a time, etc. ;)

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Grey » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:55 pm

These seem like either very large saddles or very small set screws. Have you sized these out to a real world equivilent?

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Deed_Poll » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:18 pm

Grey wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:55 pm
These seem like either very large saddles or very small set screws. Have you sized these out to a real world equivilent?
Yes it's all been sized up to integrate real hardware!

The set screws for the saddle are M2 - nominally 2mm diameter. All the post stuff is M4 (4mm). :)

The saddles are pretty big, they very nearly touch each other and the string spacing is 52mm, so they come in as spheres a tiny bit over 10mm diameter each.

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Grey » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:38 pm

I'm curious to see how those work for intonation, I don't think i've seen that before. Very compact design if it works well.

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Futuron » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:03 pm

Looks terrific and now also seems convenient to set up as well as use. Is there any reasonable risk of those intonation screws working loose, or should they stay nice and tight?

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by nelsongeets » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:42 am

Wow, quick work on the intonation locking fix! The little intonation screws on top definitely seem like a solid solution. I especially like that there is no risk of intonation/saddle screws poking your hand while palm muting.

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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by Ceylon » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:28 am

If I can offer my 2 cents, the name is good but I'd consider stylising it as "Tuffset". Because this is tuff with two f's.
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Re: New Offset Bridge Design - the Toughset

Post by marqueemoon » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:36 am

One thing I’m wondering is if the saddles can be flipped around couldn’t the set screw be in front of/behind the slot? That would mean the string would need to come out of the slot to lock down intonation of course, but would allow heftier set screws to be used.

The bridge could then be shipped with the saddle in the correct orientation for E-E standard tuning and end users can flip them around if needed.

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