Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

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Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by Amber » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:19 am

I'm tempted to build a lefty Ed O'Brien type guitar (in terms of a sustainer pickup in a strat, not the colour way or maple neck)

But got me thinking about a Jazzmaster or Jag if I'm building it from the ground up. Especially with the shallow tremolo, I think it'd work nicely with the sustainer.

I know Marr has a Jag with a sustainer in it, but I don't think I've come across a vid of it.

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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:24 am

ive been curious about doing a sustainer circuit in a jazzmaster project i've had laying around forever. sadly never done it.
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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by Embenny » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:58 am

A little necromancy might yield some useful info. From the depths of the OSG archive...

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... hp?t=16936
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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by timtam » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:12 pm

Also from here onwards recently re the Marr sustainer jag ...
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 0#p1533863

Possibly like the easiest approach would be via the basic, single-coil-only version of the Fernandes FSK-401 sustainer kit. The wiring diagram for the Ed O'Brien strat is available, but is obviously for a 3-pickup guitar with different controls.
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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by Amber » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:42 pm

Cheers, gotta find a 401 kit next! All seem to be sold out.

Not sure if this'll go in a offset or strat yet... watch this space.

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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by Zork » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:53 am

I was literally just yesterday browsing for sustainers and debatting what to get. After some time I came to the conclusion that the best would be a Digitech Freqout pedal - or am I completely wrong here? Sustainiacs and Sustainers are just monophonic, too. They offer 2 modes instead of 7 and they require heavy routing (at least the Fernandes) in one of my guitars whereas the pedal can just sit on my board. What's not to like? Or did I overlook something?

Edit: not trying to hijack, just to bring another aspect in the discussion.

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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by Amber » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:47 am

The Freqout doesn't do much for me based on demos on Youtube.

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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by Embenny » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:00 am

I guess it depends on what you want to do with it, musically. The freqout is a cool pedal but you can't do a lot of sustainer techniques with it. If you just want to hold a note and have it decay rapidly into a harmonic, sure. But the Sustainer can do a whole lot of Ebow-like stuff that wouldn't work any other way but by driving the string magnetically.
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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by shadowplay » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:36 am

mbene085 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:00 am
I guess it depends on what you want to do with it, musically. The freqout is a cool pedal but you can't do a lot of sustainer techniques with it. If you just want to hold a note and have it decay rapidly into a harmonic, sure. But the Sustainer can do a whole lot of Ebow-like stuff that wouldn't work any other way but by driving the string magnetically.
Totally agree. I was just lisening to Pieter Nooten and Michael Brook Sleeps With the Fishes which isn't perhaps the best elpee ever released on 4AD but it's certainly the one I listen to most. It's a sustainer (or infinite guitar as B rook calls it) masterpiece.

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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by tdbajus » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:12 am

Been a long time since I listened to this.
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Re: Sustainer in Jazzmaster/Jag examples?

Post by Amber » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:57 pm

shadowplay wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:36 am
mbene085 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:00 am
I guess it depends on what you want to do with it, musically. The freqout is a cool pedal but you can't do a lot of sustainer techniques with it. If you just want to hold a note and have it decay rapidly into a harmonic, sure. But the Sustainer can do a whole lot of Ebow-like stuff that wouldn't work any other way but by driving the string magnetically.
Totally agree. I was just lisening to Pieter Nooten and Michael Brook Sleeps With the Fishes which isn't perhaps the best elpee ever released on 4AD but it's certainly the one I listen to most. It's a sustainer (or infinite guitar as B rook calls it) masterpiece.

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Now I gotta build one! Huge Brook fan. That track also sounds a lot like NIN's A Warm Place in parts...

Now just a question of whether I want the JM/Jag type trem or Strat trem...

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