Coodercaster Build UPDATE PG 6, AUDIO PG 8

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by hpr_hpr » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:28 am

Assuming we are talking about the neck pickup (if it's the bridge just interchange bridge & neck below).

There is no point in running a separate ground wire UNLESS you isolate the coil from the cover . . .

If you ground the cover separately AND 'invert the phase' without isolating the coil you ground both ends = no signal.

Current (colors for illustration only):
black = coil start + cover -> connect to GND
white = coil end -> connect to switch

if you add a separate ground wire for the cover and 'invert phase' you end up with:
white = coil end -> connect to GND
black = coil start + cover -> connect to switch
bare (from the cover) -> connect to GND

As you can see black now has a direct path to GND (via the cover) and white is directly connected to GND = both ends of the coil connected to GND = no signal to switch . . . in addition, if you wired it like this and you set the PU switch to BOTH the bridge would be grounded at both ends as well = dead guitar . . . the only signal would be with the switch in the bridge position which should work correctly.
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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:46 am

I'm going to try and do some experimentation with the wiring some time this weekend, if I can. I really want both pickups in this guitar, so hopefully I can get around the phase issue. Worst case scenario, I either just have one pickup in this guitar, or I have just a two-position switch. :-/

What I really don't want to do, is have to spend much more money. I have all the pots and switches already, so it's just a matter of getting a guard made and figuring out the pickup configuration... :) I still want some fancy knobs, though!

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by Fiddy » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:48 am

I have an old pickup that reads 4.2k that wont have those issues...

Not sure if you're interested... Free, if you want it...

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:19 am

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I'll take it, if that's the case. Pack it together with the knobs I'm buying off of you?

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by Fiddy » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:20 am

Sure, ill save it for you. I did extend the leads too btw.

Err, what knobs tho?

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:22 am

Oh geez. I misread who posted that. I thought you were Contiki/Chris. :wacko:

And thank you! That'd be great. Always curious about weirdo pickups. :)

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:46 am

Is there such thing as a 2 position tele-style switch? Or a 2-position rotary switch?

If all else fails, maybe I could just a jag-style 2-way switch to go back and forth between the neck and bridge pickups?

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by hpr_hpr » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Not in the form of a tele switch that I know of. They do exist for rotary switches e.g. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/ ... ND/1046759 . . . .
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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by DrQuasar » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:45 am

You could use an on on toggle switch as well.

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:46 pm

I might have to... I was thinking about using a rotary switch, so I could just fit a knob over top of it to turn the switch. BUT, probably not the best solution for quick pickup setting changing.

I maaaay put this guitar on hold for the time being. I have no clue what to do with it as far as pickups... I'll keep mulling it over, though. No real rush.

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:03 am

And just in case anyone thought I was someone who stuck to my guns... I put the HersheyBar pickup back in the neck position of the guitar and :-* :-* :-*


So... :whistle:

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:18 am

🐻 with me, folks.... I'm considering putting a hot Broadcaster/Lap Steel-style pickup in the bridge. I've realized that I really do miss having the middle position, since when I'm playing I go to do a habitual flip of the toggle switch when I'm playing this guitar. On my Tele and Jazzmaster it's basically second nature for me, but with this guitar, I keep feeling like I want more from it.

Good idea? Bad idea?

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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by Ursa Minor » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:19 am

Good idea - but won't you have the same issues as before? You'll have to check polarity and compare with neck pickup.
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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by Ursa Minor » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:20 am

You could also just put the one pickup in the middle. :P
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Re: Coodercaster Build

Post by StevenO » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:24 am

kosmonautmayhem wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:19 am
Good idea - but won't you have the same issues as before? You'll have to check polarity and compare with neck pickup.
Well, at least with the bridge pickup, I could switch the leads and because the casing isn't metal it won't have the same issue as the metal covered Silvertone/Harmony pickups IF IM THINKING CORRECTLY.

As for putting it in the middle, I actually have the pickup right in between where the Neck and Middle pickups would be on a Strat. It's the Cooder position, really. ;)

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