Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
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Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Hi guys!
More to come on this, but long story short I just took J's Jag Bass body off the CNC and it's the first one I've machined with this timber.
It machined well initially, but was very particular with feeds and speeds and has a tendency to get dusty if the feed speed is too low. Once I got the feed speed up where it needed to be and slowed the RPM a little, it cut beautifully and made perfect chips, leaving a super smooth surface. It reminded me a lot of the black Korina I cut a few months back, which is definitely a good thing!
Compared to non heat treated ash, it is surprisingly different. The surface is a good bit harder and it's a bit tougher to sand. I imagine it will resist dents a bit easier, it was more like working with alder but less stringy. I haven't gone through the motions yet with the sanding, just got rid of a few machining marks with some 220.
The amazing thing about it is that its walnut-like appearance when dry goes to a real deep rosewood colour after a rub with some IPA. I'd be happy with this wood if I was making a George Harrison style rosewood telecaster replica but didn't have the funds or the patience to find RW in suitable dimensions... Here's a pic to show what I mean.
More to come! I will be making a bunch of my offset Tele styles in this wood soon
Cheers!
Dan
More to come on this, but long story short I just took J's Jag Bass body off the CNC and it's the first one I've machined with this timber.
It machined well initially, but was very particular with feeds and speeds and has a tendency to get dusty if the feed speed is too low. Once I got the feed speed up where it needed to be and slowed the RPM a little, it cut beautifully and made perfect chips, leaving a super smooth surface. It reminded me a lot of the black Korina I cut a few months back, which is definitely a good thing!
Compared to non heat treated ash, it is surprisingly different. The surface is a good bit harder and it's a bit tougher to sand. I imagine it will resist dents a bit easier, it was more like working with alder but less stringy. I haven't gone through the motions yet with the sanding, just got rid of a few machining marks with some 220.
The amazing thing about it is that its walnut-like appearance when dry goes to a real deep rosewood colour after a rub with some IPA. I'd be happy with this wood if I was making a George Harrison style rosewood telecaster replica but didn't have the funds or the patience to find RW in suitable dimensions... Here's a pic to show what I mean.
More to come! I will be making a bunch of my offset Tele styles in this wood soon
Cheers!
Dan
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Looks GREAT, how's the weight?
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Wow, that's beautiful.
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
India Pale Ale???Deed_Poll wrote:its walnut-like appearance when dry goes to a real deep rosewood colour after a rub with some IPA.
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Ohh yeah
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Weight isn't bad Ken, I'd say roughly on the spectrum from moderate to slightly hefty alder. Some boards I have are lighter than others, and I was very surprised that the pieces with the tightest grain aren't necessarily the heaviest! I think I'll make some thinlines with the heavier pieces, I already have a toolpath lined up for that which should work really nicely.
Cheers Steven, yeah it's amazing what a finish will do! The pictures really don't do the dry wood justice at all, in reality it's kind of a beautiful chocolate / wenge type colour that is very nice in its own right.
Saxjag, haha indeed! But it's gotta be craft brewed for the boutique tonz!! Isopropyl alcohol
I think you're gonna like this one J!
Cheers Steven, yeah it's amazing what a finish will do! The pictures really don't do the dry wood justice at all, in reality it's kind of a beautiful chocolate / wenge type colour that is very nice in its own right.
Saxjag, haha indeed! But it's gotta be craft brewed for the boutique tonz!! Isopropyl alcohol
I think you're gonna like this one J!
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
That grain and color looks really great. Rosewood-like enough to get you in trouble while crossing borders with it.
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
I did the edge radius today, I got a little chunk of tear out on the end grain so I sped up the tool and it worked great after that. Its quite brittle and the window seems pretty narrow, but when you've got it set just right it machines really nicely and leaves a very smooth finish.
More pics coated in India Pale Ale for that lovely colour!
More pics coated in India Pale Ale for that lovely colour!
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
man, that's pretty.
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I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing i ever heard come out a pair of headphones.
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Very Nice!
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Cheers guys!
Ken, an update on the weight.
There seems to be a really big variance between the heaviest and lightest pieces.
The bass body is 4lb 12oz, of course it does have fairly extensive routing and contours plus a 1/2" radius, and is a tiny bit thinner (1-5/8" instead of 1-3/4").
Still I think that's pretty manageable considering that it is pretty large with the long horn and all. Jaguars are not known for being lightweights!
However I just cut an offset Tele style body (4% larger than a normal Tele) in full thickness, with vintage style routes and that weighs a hair over 6lbs... Which I would say is a bit of a bruiser!
I can always use the denser pieces to make thinlines or weight relieved bodies with tops, or just more routing under the pickguard to get the weight down a bit.
I've had terrible trouble with tear out around the neck pocket on this offset Tele body, good practice for me fixing it up I guess! It's a bit strange though considering the Jag Bass body didn't have any problems with tear out around the neck pocket. I think I'll try filling it in with dust and supergluing it. It won't be too pretty but it should be workablr after that! It will be a blue light special for sure! Haha
Ken, an update on the weight.
There seems to be a really big variance between the heaviest and lightest pieces.
The bass body is 4lb 12oz, of course it does have fairly extensive routing and contours plus a 1/2" radius, and is a tiny bit thinner (1-5/8" instead of 1-3/4").
Still I think that's pretty manageable considering that it is pretty large with the long horn and all. Jaguars are not known for being lightweights!
However I just cut an offset Tele style body (4% larger than a normal Tele) in full thickness, with vintage style routes and that weighs a hair over 6lbs... Which I would say is a bit of a bruiser!
I can always use the denser pieces to make thinlines or weight relieved bodies with tops, or just more routing under the pickguard to get the weight down a bit.
I've had terrible trouble with tear out around the neck pocket on this offset Tele body, good practice for me fixing it up I guess! It's a bit strange though considering the Jag Bass body didn't have any problems with tear out around the neck pocket. I think I'll try filling it in with dust and supergluing it. It won't be too pretty but it should be workablr after that! It will be a blue light special for sure! Haha
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Here are some pics of the offset Tele body with all the tearout... I just discovered all my old superglue has perished so I had to buy some new ones, I plan to just fill it up with dust and put my faith in the capillary action. I'll do this multiple times until it's slightly proud of the surface then sand it back.
Ouch!
Ouch!
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
Ouch indeed, but that's lovely on the offset Tele shape with the roasted ash!!
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Cheers, J!
Good news - I think I might just about have saved it
Good news - I think I might just about have saved it
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Re: Roasted ash fresh off the CNC!
I've used superglue/sawdust on those type tearouts in the past, works well but not for clear finish. The tele looks great!
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