Staytrem Collet no longer has allen key adjustment?

[Boxbie]

Hi!

Forgive me if this is territory that has already been covered.
After years of replacing collet after collet when the teeth broke, trying all this stuff http://home.comcast.net/~rmessick2/Trem ... rm_Fix.htm, when I heard about the Johnny Marr jag, I ordered the staytrem immediately.

It came with an Allen key adjustment. Several years later,my friend just bought one and the allen key adjustment is gone. Wha?

[david phantomatic]

Yep, I dumped a Staytrem a couple years ago because of the Allen wrench adjustment.
Decided tog I've it another go this year and was surprised to find no Allen adjustment.
It's a MAJOR improvement, as far as I'm concerned.

[Boxbie]

Interesting.

What was wrong with your old one?

I haven't had any trouble with mine.

Seems to me the lack of machining for the new design would make them much cheaper to manufacture. This isn't reflected in the price!!

[fisonic]

I know with my first stay trem version(with allen key), that when I adjusted it off a bit, to attempt to make the arm turn a bit more freely(it worked), It soon after unwound itself & started tapping/fouling out in the bootom of the trem rout.
A bit of locktite soon sorted it out.
Dont really have a major preference. Both types work well.

[Boxbie]

fair enough

[hwestman]

I got a second hand arm a while ago and recently installed it. No screw here either. It seems to do what it is supposed to do and now I don't have to constantly re-push it in every 15 minutes.

Good piece of kit!

[Ben17e]

I seem to remember Johnny Marr saying in an interview promoting the Marr Jag that they found that a synthetic collet of some type gave a better result than the allen key