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Re: jazz/jag/stang-o-matic

Post by marcello252 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:38 am

Did this on my Squier jaguar VM 2012, worked like a charm.

I got rid of the original bridge switching to a tune o matic with roller saddles. Very stable, never had a problem with tuning, but the sound wasn't right, I lost that Jaguar 'plunk' I always loved.

So I tried this mod using original bridge and the tune o matic post. Good, really good, right sound and no noises, very stable, a winning solution
thank you.

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Post by hypnoraygun » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:15 pm

Thank you for this. I tried the original bridge on my CP Jag, and it buzzed. Nail polish was a bit better, but not happy. Tried a roller bridge.. eh.. about the same.. I tried this mod with a $22 bridge from ebay. I popped the "legs" off, (WAY TOO easy, scary)then widened the holes with a metal reamer tool, adjusted the height of each saddle, popped it on.. BOOM. SO much better. YEAH! :w00t:

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Re: jazz/jag/stang-o-matic

Post by Altar » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:24 pm

One thing I tried recently was the use of screws and springs to secure the bridge, I slid springs in between the bridge and the body, and screwed it in using the holes where the thimbles used to be. It seems to counteract the string tension, while maintaining upward force on the bridge, and with bushings between the screws and the springs, I believe it could work as the world's most simplistic vibrato effect.

Food for thought. Try it on that crap guitar you have lying around.

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Post by kujoalt » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:44 pm

Did this mod to my CP Jazzy. Works great!
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Post by Johnophean » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:33 pm

Hey guys, so do we have an official consensus from fender that the Fender Adjustomatic bridges are a 12" radius and not 9.5"?
I ask because I have been using a Gotoh TOM on my Jagstang for years(redrilled and put in there permanently, neck shimmed and vibrato bar reversed and locked)...It's not that I don't like the Gotoh bridge, but well, I don't love it, not only because of the mismatched 12" vs 7.25" issue, but those little hex nut screws like to come loose and then the bridge saddles rattles until you can get in there and hold them with your thumb while you re-tighten and re-intonate it. I also messed up when I installed the bridge by not angling the bridge, I installed it straight like the Mustang bridge was and the low E won't allow for dead on intonation. it's about 10 cents sharp on the fretted octave, all the other strings are intonatable though.
Soooo...
Before I either try my best at a filing of the Gotohs saddles to a 7.25", or opting an AOM (if it is in fact a miraculous 9.5") anyone have any tips or suggestions. Is the tonal difference between a TOM style and a Mustang style come back when you do the JAZZ/JAG/STANG-O-MATIC mod to a Gotoh/Mustang bridge splice job? I only really hated the original Japanese Mustang bridge because it was gappy and the G string sounded kind of dead. But anytime I play a vintage Mustang somewhere I always feel they have THE sound. Does anyone make a vintage Mustang "gapless" but preset like Mustang bridge? I don't need adjustable radius like the Warmoth one. (I know that's not gappy anymore). The Stay Trem? I don't want to hack a pretty and also costly Stay Trem though.
I just went looking for the Jag-stang's Mustang bridge I took off years ago in my parts cabinet and wouldn't you know it...I sold it on eBay a few years ago and forgot I did that. Maybe one of you even bought it from me and did this mod to it. (rambling...) Anyone ever get to ask Fender about the AOM or check with a radius gauge?

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Post by Johnophean » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:27 pm

I found it!!!!
Staytrem bridge, drop in replacement for Adjusto-Matic/Gotoh style bridges!
http://staytrem.com/epages/950002362.sf ... _Category3

They even make replacement thimbles for TOM or AOM Fenders if you want to go with the vintage style Mustang/Jag/Jazz type Stay-trem bridge! :o
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Conversion-th ... 27ee12862a

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Post by Johnophean » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:23 pm

I guess I was late to the party and you all knew about this huh?
I'm torn...I don't know what to do. Trying to make the Gotoh TOM have a 7.25" by filing the saddles slots is not going so well. The high e has a permanent buzz now. No matter what height it's at. I think it's because it's sitting on more metal because the slot is deeper and it isn't on a sharper point anymore. I think I f**cked up. :fp:

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Post by Johnophean » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:59 pm

I just can't afford a new bridge right now so yesterday on my rainy day off I said the heck with it and spent 9 hours yesterday turning a Gotoh TOM bridge w/ a 12" radius into a 7.25" radius. What a pain!!! :squint:
Filing, broken parts, more filing, more broken parts, more filing, etc, etc...but it's done!
In the end, it def feels better and has a more "Fender" feel.
Now the question is do i do my Jaguar's too? Back in 1998 or 99 I permanently installed a Gibson Nashville TOM bridge on it and throught the years have filed the notches closer and closer to a 7.25", but by feel. It's not bad, but it's not perfect.
Doing this to my #1 guitar was long before the days of other options to replace a Jag or Jazzmaster bridge outside swapping for a Mustang bridge.
I do still have the original Jag bridge and I might do the Jag-o-matic mod to it this weekend that way well, I have both.

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Post by Johnophean » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:14 pm

Anyone know if the current MIJ Mustang bridges are gappy like they used to be or did they fix that situation? All the pics I see online of current MIJ Mustangs the bridge saddles look tight, like vintage ones/Staytrem/Warmoth. Any ideas?

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Re: jazz/jag/stang-o-matic

Post by Dan_Q » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:00 am

I know I am posting on a really old thread here, but thought anyone new (like myself) picking up this thread might find this info useful.

I imported a correct part number genuine fender A-O-M from the US a few months ago, May / June 2016, and when measured with a radius gauge, it was indeed 12"

Interesting idea to convert the original bridge to fit the A/T-O-M posts, I've never heard of that! Nice one.

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Re: jazz/jag/stang-o-matic

Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:55 pm

For the record, I think Staytrem offers a bridge that's made to fit TOM/AOM posts nowadays (possibly inspired by this thread?), so you don't need to go trough the hassle of modifying an existing bridge.

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