So sorry for my 'rudeness' before, but it seems like you're actually agreeing with me entirely here?Larry Mal wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 8:04 amAlso, to get back to the original question, that first set of locking tuners that was posted looks to me like the "automatic lock" kind of locking tuners, and I deeply dislike those. You put the string through, and you turn the knob a bunch of times, over and over and over and over, until the mechanism locks. If you have a string winder then it's only a passing annoyance, if you don't, it just sucks and frankly takes longer and is more of a hassle than just the Safe-T design.
Again, I have used those exact tuners, and yes, they are annoying in the extreme to restring, exactly for the reason you've mentioned, particularly when compared with the stock type.
As an added bonus, tuning stability is actually *worse* if you do a lot of bending - the only thing actually holding the string is a small steel pin, acting laterally against the string within the assembly. Yank the string hard against it, and it'll fall flat. Consistently.
So my suggestion, again, with all due respect, and not wanting to offend, is to not purchase and use that particular type.
For suggestions of something better, I will defer to anyone else's experience, as I no longer have any locking machine head equipped guitars since offloading my old G&L SC3, which had early iterations of Sperzel which I also didn't particularly like.
Also, we've all seen pictures of the bizarre, mind-bending (wrong) methods some have used when (mis) using the 'vintage' slotted type (pretty much the easiest type to restring), so I figured the question could be asked. If that's rude then... so be it.