Swope Descendant Vibrato

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by jorri » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:15 am

Looks like the obvious thing that no one has done yet. All for that. Some posts on the mod section have occasionally been about wanting to route the trem deeper for length plus break angle. If its 1cm lower (guessing) thats sufficient enough and youd never get the bridge that high.

Lack of a lock has ways around it apparently (at least to get no upbend).

So, as with a lot of these things, like the mastery, i am wondering if it costs as much as a budget guitar itself. Staytrem doesnt, and even a recent bass bridge purchase (fender high mass) costs less than my strings... So that is always the tipping point. My E does rattle a bit and my trem is rickety a bit but ultimately its not enough of a problem to cost as much as a mastery. I get it if your guitar is 1.5k and you just want one perfect thing. (could almost geg a squire tele and use that for any time i notice?)

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by ek11sx » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:25 pm

Anyone get their hands on one yet?

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by FIREBOT » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:40 pm

I got one. I have had it for about a month, but to be fair, I’ve been traveling a bit and haven’t really put it through it’s paces. It’s on a new Fender Japan Hybrid Series Jaguar that is also sporting a Mastery Bridge. My first impression is that is is very solid and high quality. It weighs about an oz less than an AVRI tremolo. The feel is meaningfully stiffer than an AVRI or a Mastery tremolo... not in a bad way, but just in a different way. Chris Swope has some things posted where he talks about using a stiffer spring, and that one could sub in the softer spring of the trem one is swapping out. I think I like the stiffer feel, but, as I said before, I haven’t really spent a lot of time with it. I feel like I’m still evaluating. This particular Jag comes with locking tuners, so between the tuners, the Mastery and the Descendant, it stays in tune like nothing I’ve ever seen before.

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by Larry Mal » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:16 pm

Man, that looks great.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by mbene085 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:17 pm

It definitely fits with a Mastery, visually. Looks sharp.

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by Larry Mal » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:18 pm

I see they can be bought for $175 shipped.

I've paid more for things I like less.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by antisymmetric » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:41 pm

Really pleased to see this being made, first meaningful upgrade of the offset trem I've seen. :-*
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by Larry Mal » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:27 pm

I would buy this instead of the Mastery.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by ek11sx » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:15 am

FIREBOT wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:40 pm
I got one. I have had it for about a month, but to be fair, I’ve been traveling a bit and haven’t really put it through it’s paces. It’s on a new Fender Japan Hybrid Series Jaguar that is also sporting a Mastery Bridge. My first impression is that is is very solid and high quality. It weighs about an oz less than an AVRI tremolo. The feel is meaningfully stiffer than an AVRI or a Mastery tremolo... not in a bad way, but just in a different way. Chris Swope has some things posted where he talks about using a stiffer spring, and that one could sub in the softer spring of the trem one is swapping out. I think I like the stiffer feel, but, as I said before, I haven’t really spent a lot of time with it. I feel like I’m still evaluating. This particular Jag comes with locking tuners, so between the tuners, the Mastery and the Descendant, it stays in tune like nothing I’ve ever seen before.

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Did you measure your cavity before buying? If so, what number did you find? Mine is 2.55, which is less than the recommended 2.57

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by FIREBOT » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:03 pm

ek11sx wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:15 am

Did you measure your cavity before buying? If so, what number did you find? Mine is 2.55, which is less than the recommended 2.57
Nope... sorry

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by Larry Mal » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:44 pm

timtam wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:02 pm
There are several installation vids. Second one covers trem cavity size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G5VC59EOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrVmVtSPdPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQzwCn6SzM
Having watched that I am even more impressed with the unit and this man Swope also. I might get one of these for my MIJ Jazzmaster and such.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by parry » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:19 pm

oid wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:33 pm
Looks like hell for string changes, perhaps they are keyhole with strings installed from the front?
This question has been on my mind since seeing these ^^
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by nelsongeets » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:49 am

I haven't gotten my hands on one myself yet, but I did see somewhere that the strings go through a front loading keyhole design rather than from the rear like a standard JM trem.

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:31 am

He's selling lefties for the same price too!!!
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