Swope Descendant Vibrato

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by ek11sx » Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:41 pm

Anyone fit one of these onto an AmPro yet? Also, how does the feel compare to a Mastery Vibrato?

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by bodhi » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:29 am

Actually, now that I've looked at the webpage again, I realised it doesn't have a trem-lock, which I kind of like, even if it's maybe more of a comfort placebo for quick drop tunings than anything else... Additionally, I just realised that since my JM is now in a pieces-phase, the AVRI trem arm needs to be pushed down with a bit of a wiggle to actually set in place, which I've failed to do constantly and that has lead to it swinging about and even falling out on occasion. Since there's a spring there with a bit of give, there's no way of pressing the arm into the collet all the way straight... On top of all of that, I just saw the awesome 6/12 double neck posted with tunable behind-the-bridge strings which sounds awesome in an interesting way. And that doesn't seem doable with this design. It looks great, but I've realised I've grown out of it now.

What would be interesting is if someone would create a version of this setup that would allow for adjusting the angle of the trem arm without bending. And then maybe a designed roller tuner setup for off-the-shelf tuned behind the bridge artsyness. I'm Lost in the supermarket...
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by jorri » Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:25 pm

bodhi wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:29 am
Actually, now that I've looked at the webpage again, I realised it doesn't have a trem-lock, which I kind of like, even if it's maybe more of a comfort placebo for quick drop tunings than anything else... Additionally, I just realised that since my JM is now in a pieces-phase, the AVRI trem arm needs to be pushed down with a bit of a wiggle to actually set in place, which I've failed to do constantly and that has lead to it swinging about and even falling out on occasion. Since there's a spring there with a bit of give, there's no way of pressing the arm into the collet all the way straight... On top of all of that, I just saw the awesome 6/12 double neck posted with tunable behind-the-bridge strings which sounds awesome in an interesting way. And that doesn't seem doable with this design. It looks great, but I've realised I've grown out of it now.

What would be interesting is if someone would create a version of this setup that would allow for adjusting the angle of the trem arm without bending. And then maybe a designed roller tuner setup for off-the-shelf tuned behind the bridge artsyness. I'm Lost in the supermarket...
The arm has a tension screw. Whether that means I could set its height I don't know. You can sent how high the plate descends though.
I'm a lock user with a cello taped high trem arm too.

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by adamrobertt » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:46 pm

My only real issue with it is that it's kinda ugly. I don't like the brushed stainless look too much, especially since everything else on an offset is chrome. If he offered a polished or chromed version of it I'd probably be more interested.

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by JVG » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:49 pm

adamrobertt wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:46 pm
My only real issue with it is that it's kinda ugly. I don't like the brushed stainless look too much, especially since everything else on an offset is chrome. If he offered a polished or chromed version of it I'd probably be more interested.
I really like the string slots, but agree with you about the brushed steel - that stuff belongs on early-2000s kitchen appliances, not guitars.

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by jorri » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:50 am

I like brushed steel, but could see how it would look out of place on some jags for example. It's a modern look against the shiny chrome, but they may release a chrome version if it's successful. I would put on a warmth JM which is very different aesthetic with no other shiny plates.

Had a look at the videos though.
The arm looks higher and almost pre-bent angle. This would depend on spring tension and spring choice too.
And it does explain a 'lock' workaround by adding longer screws included that stop upward travel. More for the Kevin shielders or frequent detuners than to use it as an actual 'lock for string breaks'...but that's me, I don't remember when I last broke a string.

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by molul » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:23 pm

I just saw this vibrato in unofficial warmoth forums and I'm very curious. I'm having a JM built with a mastery bridge and tremolo, and I wonder if I should have investigated a bit more and get this descendant vibrato instead of the mastery one. Has anyone compared both yet?

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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato

Post by jorri » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:28 am

Noticed an update on their instagram:

Now ships with an arm you can remove without unscrewing.
Just simply made a flat part so arm pulls out when opposite to playing position. With a DIY guide if already bought.

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