av bridge vs japan bridge vs mexican bridge vs aftermarket

[ludobag1]

thanks ,will post in the first post
is the allpart have chrome saddle or more brown (brass) like the pics ?

[timtam]

thanks ,will post in the first post
is the allpart have chrome saddle or more brown (brass) like the pics ?

Chrome. It's just the lighting. See here:
https://www.allparts.com/SB-0210-010-Ch ... _3229.html

[Igorilla]

Here is a series of pics with a direct comparison of CIJ bridge from the 90s and a Fender american vintage bridge (PN 005-4460-000)
On the LHS is CIJ and on the RHS is AV:
First, the AV bridge is lighter than CIJ bridge (44 g vs 52 g).

The intonation screws on the AV are shorter and thinner than CIJ, the saddles themselves have smaller diameter


The mounting of the bridge posts to the bridge base/plate is different:


The mounting of the height adjustment screws is different. The fit of the height adjustment screws on the AV bridge is very tight as oposed to the CIJ bridge where I can easily move the screws to left/right.


And here you can see the difference in the diameter of the saddles


I'll do the same comparison between the 60s lacquer Jag bridge and AV bridge later.
But right now Allparts bridge posted by timtam looks exactly like 60s lacquer Jag bridge that came stock with the guitar.

[ludobag1]

interresting things ,what year is this cij bridge ?
i Don't remember the one on my cij jag have this sort of legs ,will look at if i find a pics cause i have sale it

[timtam]

Close up of 1966 jag bridge from Norm's guitar of the day today at t=160s ...
https://youtu.be/R68fS8bGFIc?t=160

Short intonation screws (backwards here). The way the posts are mounted/riveted to the bridge is different again (more substantial, domes).

97 CIJ vs 1965 differences also described here ...
http://offset.guitars/the-goodies/how-d ... 5-model/[i]
"Bridge: the pivot posts are riveted-in quite differently, there’s no ‘dome’ above the plate like the original. Saddles are larger diameter and slightly coarser thread on the lower 3 strings (advantage – wider grooves). So are the intonation screws, and they’re longer (disadvantage, the ends of the screws interfere with the strings even worse than on the oldies, I had to cut the end off the bottom ‘E’ screw on the ’65). The height screws are 1.5mm Allen not 1mm."

[Igorilla]

interresting things ,what year is this cij bridge ?
i Don't remember the one on my cij jag have this sort of legs ,will look at if i find a pics cause i have sale it

The bridge came with a CIJ Jazzmaster from 1998/1999.

[ludobag1]

news i put my brand new guitar at rehearsale this evening and at half of the rehearsale the bridge fall in height (the screw of the leg start to move and the bridge became too low
it never happen with my cij, mexican, avri one ,( i use candle wax to lock the screws and it Always worked )then this thing is surely an aftermarket part
then i have to order a real one with the right number

[timtam]

Longer intonation screws does seem to be suggestive of MIJ/CIJ or aftermarket (non-Fender).

Screws on Fender's 0054460000 ..
https://www.guitar-parts.com/catalog/br ... r-jaguar-2


Yet another aftermarket (Korean) ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-THR ... 85006.html

[ludobag1]

thanks igorilla and timtam you are the best ,i think is the only way to be sure is the real thing

then if you buy a bridge who is designed like an av 62 ref 005 4460 000
the thing to control
first
the lenght of saddle screws ,long = wrong ,on avri the screw are shorter than the larger of bridge
second
the thread with gap = wrong avri du to tolerance have no real gap in threading
third
in inch vs metric
four
look at the solder of the legs avri are not like others (this need to look and compare with a reference ,not easy at first sight)(vintage is forget cause old bridge have dome)
five
on the channel there is no burr and look well finished with some rounder feel
six
the size of screws for saddle lenght and the size of saddle (need a real to compare ,not easy by eyes without ref)

if one of this six fail it is not a avri

av 65 have a groove in the screw for the legs to set up the overall height of bridge ,this make the screws more hard to turn and avoid unscrewing with vibration

[ludobag1]

and the quest continu
i have order this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Fender-Bri ... 2230350778

part number ok
recept



where are my threaded saddle ? ,longer screws ect ... it is not the AV62 0054460000
ok the bag is labeled 0054460000 but the bridge is not the good one
somebody knows what this part is ?
the legs screws have groove like av65
maybe it is the new us one for american professional but the screws for saddle are long(no it have screws for height on saddle)
the only one i found on fender site is this one ,classic player jazzmaster
https://shop.fender.com/fr-FR/electric- ... ml#start=1

[timtam]

The bridge in your picture looks like a Fender import that was on some blacktops. It also may be the bridge on the new Player series jags and JMs. Its part number is 0081239001. The number on the plastic bag is wrong.
https://reverb.com/au/item/1504639-fend ... 0081239001
http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/gbridge_mustang.htm

From Fender it sells for about US$25. It has long intonation screws. Similar to what you got.

However a very, very similar bridge can be had on ebay from China for less than US$10.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridge-Assembl ... 2628957698

It looks to have shorter intonation screws.

[ludobag1]

Thanks timtam
i contact my seller for a exchange or refund
as i look at closer the bag was open and you can take the bridge by the hole (the bag was not scelled like it could be as a fender mistake )
then i will wait an answer by the seller to see what he said (but shipping return are for him cause it is not the good item in the bag,not my fault ,or refund cause if it cost only 20 dollars i don't have to pay 50 for)i will see if he is a honest seller or not
it is not as bad as it seems cause i don't use my guitar for fews days ,but i don't have chance with avri bridge this year
but the other i have have the wright saddle and it was the legs that don't work ,this one have the good legs but bad saddle ,the string spacing is too much (55 mm and the string will be out of fretboard )and prefer the threaded one for spacing the string to my tastes
just want an av bridge
as i look at closer it look like the u channel is a av 65 with the screws with groove but the saddle are like the 0081239001 ?
don't know if the 0081239001 have screws with groove on legs

[ludobag1]

some news
my seller refund my purshase with apologies ,then it is cool
i will try to use the 2 to have one working

[soul1]

The bridge in your picture looks like a Fender import that was on some blacktops. It also may be the bridge on the new Player series jags and JMs. Its part number is 0081239001. The number on the plastic bag is wrong.
https://reverb.com/au/item/1504639-fend ... 0081239001
http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/gbridge_mustang.htm

From Fender it sells for about US$25. It has long intonation screws. Similar to what you got.

However a very, very similar bridge can be had on ebay from China for less than US$10.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridge-Assembl ... 2628957698

It looks to have shorter intonation screws.

Does anyone have any experience with the cheap Chinese bridges or the Fender adjustable ones that are on the new Player series? Curious if there is any rattle/buzz, and if it's made for a 9.5" radius.

[cjrod]

Has anyone had good results using the bridge from the American Professional JM on the Lacquer JM? The radius on the AmPro is 9.5 and the Lacquer is the classic 7.25. Can the AmPro bridge be modded to change the radius? Besides the issues with radius, are there any other issues with swapping the bridges? Thanks in advance.