Jazzmaster pickup comparison
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison
Threw a set of Lollar JMs on my AVRI about a week ago. Wow, these get that vintage sound that a vintage reissue deserves. THe staggered pole peices are nice touch. Only thing is that the Ivory covers, which look great, are a darker tone than the stock vintage knobs. So, the search begins for some darker vintage style knobs.
Any suggestions. Thanks in advance.
Any suggestions. Thanks in advance.
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Anyone can tell me what song that is which is being played in the neck pickup clips?
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These comparisons are amazing. Thank you for posting them!
Still, I'm no closer to making up my mind ... the Novak JM-V in the Neck position clip sounds very bottom-heavy compared to the Lollar in the same position. I'm not saying this is bad, per se, but it sounds in the clip like it's too much (signal, load? I don't know the technical term), so there is some distortion, whereas the Lollar clip is clean throughout. Meanwhile, the clip with two JM-Vs together sounds superb...
I'd intended to put a JM-V in the neck position and a JM-Fat in the bridge position, but I'm a little wary of the JM-V neck after listening to that pickup's neck clip. Also, there is no example of the JM-Fat in the bridge position, but the clip of it in the neck position sounds great. Am I misguided in thinking the Fat pickup would be better suited for the bridge pickup? I know it's a single coil, but if it's meant to have a beefier sound, that's in keeping with the philosophy that puts humbuckers at the bridge in H-S guitars.
At the moment, I've got Seymour Duncan Vintage for Jazzmaster pickups in my cart at Warmoth. I listened to the clips on the Duncan website and I think they sound great. I gather, though, that they are considered lower-grade than the Antiquities.
The AVRI pups sound pretty good, too, though. All the options are driving me a little crazy.
A lot of folks are on the boutique bandwagon. There's got to be something to it. But I'm still stuck.
Still, I'm no closer to making up my mind ... the Novak JM-V in the Neck position clip sounds very bottom-heavy compared to the Lollar in the same position. I'm not saying this is bad, per se, but it sounds in the clip like it's too much (signal, load? I don't know the technical term), so there is some distortion, whereas the Lollar clip is clean throughout. Meanwhile, the clip with two JM-Vs together sounds superb...
I'd intended to put a JM-V in the neck position and a JM-Fat in the bridge position, but I'm a little wary of the JM-V neck after listening to that pickup's neck clip. Also, there is no example of the JM-Fat in the bridge position, but the clip of it in the neck position sounds great. Am I misguided in thinking the Fat pickup would be better suited for the bridge pickup? I know it's a single coil, but if it's meant to have a beefier sound, that's in keeping with the philosophy that puts humbuckers at the bridge in H-S guitars.
At the moment, I've got Seymour Duncan Vintage for Jazzmaster pickups in my cart at Warmoth. I listened to the clips on the Duncan website and I think they sound great. I gather, though, that they are considered lower-grade than the Antiquities.
The AVRI pups sound pretty good, too, though. All the options are driving me a little crazy.
A lot of folks are on the boutique bandwagon. There's got to be something to it. But I'm still stuck.
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison
I went through this discussion myself about 2 years ago and if I recall correctly, the basic gist is that the "vintage" pickups are modern mass-produced pickups made to basically vintage specs (though what "vintage" year they're most similar to I'm not sure), whereas the "antiquity" pickups are hand-made pickups made the same way the originals were for the eras they're trying to represent that are then chemically (and otherwise) aged to simulate what a vintage pickup would sound like today.southpaw219 wrote:At the moment, I've got Seymour Duncan Vintage for Jazzmaster pickups in my cart at Warmoth. I listened to the clips on the Duncan website and I think they sound great. I gather, though, that they are considered lower-grade than the Antiquities.
I went with the antiquity II's and I could not be happier. I don't know now but a couple years ago there was not much difference in price, so if this is your choice I am not sure why you'd really go with the vintage ones unless you want that brighter sound. I think the vintage ones are basically made to compete with the AVRI's; the antiquities are made to compete with the other boutique brands (though SD won't make them to order).
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Hi!alberto2000 wrote:Anyone can tell me what song that is which is being played in the neck pickup clips?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU-RHAHWMNM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sadly, I don't know what I want, with regard to sound. I only knew that I wanted the Jazzmaster body, which finish and that tremolo, which suits my style since I'm not a dive-bomb kind of guy. As for pickups ... I'm still at a loss for precisely how I want the string vibration to be induced and amplified.spacecadet wrote:I am not sure why you'd really go with the vintage ones unless you want that brighter sound.
Those clips were helpful because it gave me an aural point of reference for a number of different combinations, but I think I need still to hear some things in person, the result of my playing. I'm not sure any of the shops near me even stock any Jazzmasters, certainly not lefties, but I can play upside down and backwards for the purpose of testing the pups.
I'm leaning toward Novaks right now: JM-V neck and JM-90 for the bridge. But I've got 10-12 weeks until the body and neck arrive, so that's a lot of time to change my prone-to-changing mind.
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Thanks!southpaw219 wrote:These comparisons are amazing. Thank you for posting them!
Still, I'm no closer to making up my mind ... the Novak JM-V in the Neck position clip sounds very bottom-heavy compared to the Lollar in the same position. I'm not saying this is bad, per se, but it sounds in the clip like it's too much (signal, load? I don't know the technical term), so there is some distortion, whereas the Lollar clip is clean throughout. Meanwhile, the clip with two JM-Vs together sounds superb...
About the Novak JM-V indeed it has more mid-bass than the Lollar set, it perhaps sounds less "Hi-Fi" with clean but fuller with crunch, overdrive and distorsion, although the Novak JM-V is far from a P90, it stays clean even when you slap the strings.
What kind of music do you play? What is your favourite guitar sound and what's your amp/cab?
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is it me or it feels like you can get more or less the sound of any mic you want by tweaking the treble/med/heavy knobs on your amp?
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On certain limit it's true, though you can tweak the tone knob during an hour it will be hard to get a Novak tone from a Japanese pup.Barbe Bleue wrote:is it me or it feels like you can get more or less the sound of any mic you want by tweaking the treble/med/heavy knobs on your amp?
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison
Just thought I would update this thread again by adding the following from here in the UK.
The Creamery (Jazzmaster pickups used by Alex Kapranos of Franz Ferdinand):
http://www.at-the-creamery.co.uk/scatte ... ckups.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also here are some new ones on eBay made by Heywood Pickups:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jazzmaster-Pi ... 2832wt_907" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Or you can check out their website:
http://www.hoaglandbrothersguitarcompany.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Creamery (Jazzmaster pickups used by Alex Kapranos of Franz Ferdinand):
http://www.at-the-creamery.co.uk/scatte ... ckups.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also here are some new ones on eBay made by Heywood Pickups:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jazzmaster-Pi ... 2832wt_907" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Or you can check out their website:
http://www.hoaglandbrothersguitarcompany.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Great comparison! I echo the gratitude expressed by other members of the forum. My favorites were the Lollars and the Antiquity Is. I found that the Lollars had a lush, full range tone where all the frequency ranges sit in a great niche. The Antiquity I's sounded pretty great as well but with a little more high end bite.
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison
I forgot to post these ones too by Vintage Vibe Guitars:
http://www.vintagevibeguitars.com/windo ... zzWin.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
These are the vintage one's but there is also a P90 for Jazzmaster version too!
Also check out catswhiskerpickups as he makes a vintage, P90 and wide range humbucker pickup for Jazzmasters:
http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/page2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/page3.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/page6.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's an auction for the Wide Range Humbucker for Jazzmaster here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CATSWHISKER-PIC ... 500wt_1204" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.vintagevibeguitars.com/windo ... zzWin.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
These are the vintage one's but there is also a P90 for Jazzmaster version too!
Also check out catswhiskerpickups as he makes a vintage, P90 and wide range humbucker pickup for Jazzmasters:
http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/page2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/page3.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.catswhiskerpickups.co.uk/page6.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's an auction for the Wide Range Humbucker for Jazzmaster here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CATSWHISKER-PIC ... 500wt_1204" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison
Here's some more:
Klein Pickups:
http://www.kleinpickups.com/p-232-jazzm ... ckups.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mojo Pickups:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mojo-Pickups- ... 500wt_1156" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Woody's Pickups and Parts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jazzmaster-Pick ... 591wt_1141" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Klein Pickups:
http://www.kleinpickups.com/p-232-jazzm ... ckups.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mojo Pickups:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mojo-Pickups- ... 500wt_1156" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Woody's Pickups and Parts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jazzmaster-Pick ... 591wt_1141" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison
I actually have the JMV neck and JMFAT bridge and I think its the best combination I had! The JMV sounds lovely and the JMFAT deliverers a very full sound (better then the JMV in the bridge according to some).southpaw219 wrote: I'd intended to put a JM-V in the neck position and a JM-Fat in the bridge position, but I'm a little wary of the JM-V neck after listening to that pickup's neck clip. Also, there is no example of the JM-Fat in the bridge position, but the clip of it in the neck position sounds great. Am I misguided in thinking the Fat pickup would be better suited for the bridge pickup? I know it's a single coil, but if it's meant to have a beefier sound, that's in keeping with the philosophy that puts humbuckers at the bridge in H-S guitars.
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Re: Jazzmaster pickup comparison
Hi Guys,
I'm new to this site so please forgive the basic information. I recently upgraded my Japanese Stock Jazzmaster Pickups with Jess Louriero pre CBS handwound pickups and I created a quick comparison between the two. The recordings are done using Guitar Rig Session I/O directly into Ableton Live and start from the bridge position to middle to neck and then rhythm circuit. I hope these work. His website is http://www.jlguitars.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and the prices are very reasonable.
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... D=11141230" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... D=11141231" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm new to this site so please forgive the basic information. I recently upgraded my Japanese Stock Jazzmaster Pickups with Jess Louriero pre CBS handwound pickups and I created a quick comparison between the two. The recordings are done using Guitar Rig Session I/O directly into Ableton Live and start from the bridge position to middle to neck and then rhythm circuit. I hope these work. His website is http://www.jlguitars.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and the prices are very reasonable.
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... D=11141230" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... D=11141231" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;