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New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by timtam » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:12 pm

There is a new bridge / trem from Halon out of the EU ...
https://www.facebook.com/halonguitarpar ... 6142198231
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https://www.halonguitarparts.com/produc ... ridge-set/

Also has vintage-style saddle replacements ...
https://www.facebook.com/halonguitarpar ... 3556859156
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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by northernlights » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:14 am

Nice but really expensive nevertheless i'd like to try it

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by rexter » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:49 am

Saw this somewhere, maybe instagram. Looks cool, but brutally expensive yes. Don't doubt the effort that's gone into it and that bridge base looks super chunky like it would sustain really well, but the saddles ... still looking just like 3 intonated tele saddles to me. Wonder if there is a huge advantage in going for this over retro fitting some Rutters steel saddles to a JM bridge bass?

Edit;;;; just seen the thing about the 6 saddle sets that are available. That's good. Personally I think there'd be a lot of mileage in somebody manufacturing 9.5" radius saddle sets with proper spacing that just be fitted to a regular bridge base as an upgrade.

Wouldn't be keen on those height adjustment screws poking out - that's an age old problem that nobody likes!
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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by mbene085 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:51 am

Wow, crazy expensive. Basically a rocking Mastery (3-saddle, nicely machined) bridge.

I hope the absence of Staytrem from the NA market inspires more people to create competing products. This is great to see.

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by secondhand » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:06 am

My first big purchase of guitar specific tools was from this guy on Ebay as G.M.I. Even with shipping from Greece it was waaay cheaper than Stew Mac.
Quality stuff for sure. With that said, not sure I am interested in the bridge. I see no point in going to 3 saddles and a few sharp corners turn me off.

My personal favorite feature of the Staytrem was the offset intonation screws. I spent more time trimming down stock bridge screws than I care to remember. Anyone with me on that? I don't see this bridge as bringing anything new or useful to the game.

I don't find mention of price on the website or Facebook. What is he asking for the bridge and trem?
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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by marqueemoon » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:59 am

I like that there are so many options, but yeah. Really expensive.

A brass bridge with titanium saddles would be the hotness on my new project, but not for that price.

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by Larry Mal » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:00 am

Looks good, I'm happy to see the development of a great looking new bridge. I would want it to be non-rocking, though, I don't care for rocking bridges at all. Also, if I'm going to quibble, I'd rather have Mustang style fixed radius saddles since my belief is the less moving parts the better when it comes to bridges and saddles.

It's not a serious qualm, though, and I'd consider this bridge I suppose. I'd rather have the Telecaster type saddles personally.

I also took a look at the Les Paul bridges, those seem OK. Certainly better than what Gibson makes but not, in my opinion, better than what it out there from Faber and Callaham already. Again, though, something that would certainly be up for consideration.

Despite all my usual complaining I'm ecstatic to see another serious contender in the world of offset guitar bridges, since StayTrem bowed out basically and it's become depressingly clear that Fender will never make a decent bridge.
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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by Larry Mal » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:04 am

And the Telecaster bridges look like serious contenders also, might be a great product for European folk who would probably have to pay more for Callaham stuff, which looks like the inspiration for this (and even uses some of the same talking points cribbed almost directly from the Callaham site).

Also, I just took a look at the offset tremolo units... they look sharp, don't they?

Overall they seem like a high quality company with well thought out products that I'd be happy to support if there was a product that I felt was the best for my needs.

Expensive, sure, but if your guitar is a keeper, something that you would use as a creative tool for the rest of your life, what is money at that point?
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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by Debaser » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:14 am

It looks well done, I’d look into it if I couldn’t already fabricate my own. My gripe is the saddle screws are sticking up so high, but maybe that’s because it’s uninstalled. Only so much set screw travel length is allowable in the JM/Jag bridge U-channel. Keeping the intonation screws straight parallel with the base is not possible with most Tele saddles. Raising the saddles up to clear the base walls puts enough angle that it actually ‘locks’ the saddle and keeps it from moving around with vibrato use. Not too much angle though, as it will lock up and intonation adjustments are difficult. The benefits of this design are the different saddle materials available and the two string per saddle, which will help like the 3 string per saddle design used in the Mastery.

I made this verion with my spare Gotoh titanium saddles, which are compensated. Unfortunately, it won’t work, as deeper string channels are needed to handle 10s. I want to try the Philadelphia Luthier compensated saddles in aluminum. If they work I’ll be ditching my second Staytrem, I won’t get hosed this time :whistle:

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by timtam » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:24 pm

secondhand wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:06 am
I don't find mention of price on the website or Facebook. What is he asking for the bridge and trem?
194 to 275 euros for the bridge, depending on chosen material (although I don't think their website is working for orders yet) ...
https://www.halonguitarparts.com/produc ... ridge-set/

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by northernlights » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:27 am

I ordered it. The owner is very nice guy. I will compare it with mastery units. I got high expectation indeed. I'll get 1060 steel base plate and brass saddles and vibrato. String space is 55.5 which will be interesting for me i am used to play 52.5

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by PJazzmaster » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:47 am

secondhand wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:06 am
My personal favorite feature of the Staytrem was the offset intonation screws. I spent more time trimming down stock bridge screws than I care to remember. Anyone with me on that?
100% with you on that :)

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by PJazzmaster » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:48 am

northernlights wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:27 am
I ordered it. The owner is very nice guy. I will compare it with mastery units. I got high expectation indeed. I'll get 1060 steel base plate and brass saddles and vibrato. String space is 55.5 which will be interesting for me i am used to play 52.5
oh, please report back !!!

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by kimson » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:22 am

Interesting stuff for sure, waiting eagerly for user experiences.

BTW, based on the post linked below, the bridge appears to be non-rocking (or maybe they do both, who knows):

https://m.facebook.com/halonguitarparts ... 482961930/

The price of their stainless steel bridge is about the same as a Mastery bridge in Europe so I guess it's not "that bad"...

Anyone care to share how much is the trem unit going for and what might their trem "innovations" be?

Here's a direct link to the unit; I can't say I'm too crazy about the logo, though:

https://m.facebook.com/halonguitarparts ... 378865874/

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Re: New EU offset bridge / trem maker

Post by jellodog » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:44 am

Larry Mal wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:00 am
... it's become depressingly clear that Fender will never make a decent bridge.
Agree. Fender exhibits such bizarre behaviour at times. Le sigh

Also agree that fixed radius is the way to go.

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