'09 MIJ JM66B Porn

[dug]

Tort would make it look like the guitar in my avatar... but it's not really period-correct, so I wouldn't expect either Fender Japan or FMIC to put it on a guitar they're calling a 66 reissue.

It's not really a '66 reissue. Perhaps they're marketing it that way, but these aren't meant to be strict reissues. The headstock size, decal, and control knobs are all wrong, not to mention the usual incorrect specs the Japanese Jazzmasters already have going for them.

None of that matters to me...I still bought two of them.

So what you are trying to say is........


TORT THAT MOFO

if you want cause it don't matter bout no vintage correct bs.

[RumorsOFsurF]

I don't really like tort on anything except black, Oly and sunburst. Not because of "vintage correctness", but because I just don't think it looks good against colors. Also, I don't like black pickguards on much of anything except Blondes, Poo Browns, some Sunbursts, and Whites.

[dug]

So you don't like these?

Speaking of vintage correctness, I just put a new neck on my jazzmaster. Cbs headstock with a 12' radius! wooooooo

[RumorsOFsurF]

So you don't like these?

Speaking of vintage correctness, I just put a new neck on my jazzmaster. Cbs headstock with a 12' radius! wooooooo

The Strat and JM aren't too bad. The only reason I like the Strat is because it reminds me of David Gilmour. The JM is kinda cool looking, though.

[BlixaFan]

i like that strat and the JM. +1
I'm pretty partial about teles anyway, but that one looks pretty nice.

[mep]

Wow. That is an excellent pic.

I know it's just preference, but I put a tort guard on my CAR '66 RI (not really RI) and love the look of it. I posted a pic in this thread if you're curious:

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... =6&t=31347" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[spacecadet]

Tort would make it look like the guitar in my avatar... but it's not really period-correct, so I wouldn't expect either Fender Japan or FMIC to put it on a guitar they're calling a 66 reissue.

It's not really a '66 reissue. Perhaps they're marketing it that way, but these aren't meant to be strict reissues. The headstock size, decal, and control knobs are all wrong, not to mention the usual incorrect specs the Japanese Jazzmasters already have going for them.

Well, I know that, and I've said that about the MIJ's/CIJ's going back a long time... but one thing Fender Japan has always done, whatever else they've gotten wrong, is try to replicate the color schemes of the 60's as closely as they can with their "vintage" line (and that is what the line is called there). I wouldn't really expect them to intentionally use a color scheme that Fender never actually mass produced, and all of their colors are at least based on original Fender colors, although I realize where you draw the line on what were by definition "custom" colors in those days is kind of fuzzy. But by default, CAR would have come with mint (or white).

And correct me if I'm wrong, but FMIC is calling these '66 reissues, right?

[spacecadet]

Is it just me, or are there happy faces on those JM knobs?

[garyptaszek]

definitely needs brown tort!

[Mechanical Birds]

Man finding detailed info on MIJ guitars (or fender in general, or Jesus even specific guitars in general) is next to impossible. I have my eye on one of these and basically know all I need to know about it other than some stuff I've seen here and there this past half hour or so by searching around.

Basically curious if anyone knows the actual official name? Is it a 66B also or is it called a "big block?" Because the big block series were these contemporary strat/tele/jazz bass things that aren't in line with these at all.

Also, saw somewhere that they only did like 100 of these, 50 in CAR and 50 in Sunburst - confirm or deny?

[sunburster]

The model name is JM66B.

Colors were sunburst, OCR, vintage white (the latter two with matching headstock).

They made a lot more than 50 each color, and they made them for several years.

I would have bought one but I absolutely cannot stand the fret markers being BELOW the binding. It looks hideous, especially with the urine-yellow binding they have on them.

[Mechanical Birds]

No, see, I thought that too and so that's what I was searching for when I first started looking, but that's the thing, these aren't the 66B!!! Somewhere along the way I noticed that I wasn't seeing any expired listings from actual dealers for this guitar where it's called a "66B" or any pictures from older Fender Japan catalogues with pictures of this specific guitar accompanied by the "66B" distinction. Those always (aside from Sunburst, obviously) had matching headstocks and these were specifically marketed as like "Fender 66 big block Jazzmaster" but that's weird as hell, because the other Big Block guitars were all black, had matching headstocks, blocks without binding and active electronics, but this thing doesn't. I also found out that there's a 65B with binding and pearl dots that flipped my lid because I'd not only never seen one, but never even heard of them before.

I found a few for sale ads from back when these were actually new and each one specifically mentioned something along the lines of "super limited order" or "special small batch order" or whatever.

I guess it really doesn't matter too much, I was just hoping that, like a lot of times, someone would sneak in here and know everything there is to know about this specific guitar. I'd still really appreciate that if yr out there, weirdo random fender Japan expert

[sunburster]

You are incorrect. It was the JM66B, as I stated above. Here is a picture from the 2006 Japanese catalog stating as such (the number after the JM66B was the first three digits of the price in yen BEFORE tax during that specific year; it changed over time).



Here is a picture of the guitar in the 2011 catalog. At this point it was just called the JM66B, with no three digit number after it:



So it was offered continuously for at least 6 years in Japan. Batches exported to the USA in the 2000s did not have matching headstocks for OCR, unlike in Japan where they always did.

[Mechanical Birds]

There's the detail I needed! Thanks dude.

So the non matching headstock thing is just because it was imported over here? Makes sense I guess, considering like every other guitar that Fender makes outside of the custom shop that's called a reissue.

I wonder why people started calling the non matching ones Big Blocks? I also wonder where dickheads got the idea to tell the public they were some super rare deal, limited to 50 per color or whatever? I was starting to get excited that I'd made a find but now I'm
Just annoyed haha.

When I first started getting into these guitars the LPB JG66B was like my dream guitar, and honestly I'd still love to own one, but these guitars have a bunch of visual problems for me that keep me from really listing after one anymore. See, I'd believe the LPB ones were only made into the 50s or whatever because I've literally never seen one for sale, and the same goes for whoever answers emails at Ishibashi, which I feel is saying something.

TL;DR - I wish Fender in general kept better records and made them available to the public. I wonder if they'd hire me as an archivist?

[Mechanical Birds]

Oh shit I just noticed that I never really specifically noted the guitar I was talking about in the first place. It's like the one in the OP. I assume that doesn't change what you said but to be fair I don't see a picture of it in those catalogue scans.

Candy Apple Red, no matching headstock for some dumb reason, completely ambered binding so like, you can't really even tell it's there a lot of the time?