Re: serviceman´s jm

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serviceman´s jm

Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:11 am

i talked about this one a few months ago. it plays very nice, and a sounds great unplugged. the neck is straight as an arrow. pickups are crap. i was considering buying it.... until i found out the price: 7400 SEK = $1040  :o
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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by chrisjedijane » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:13 am

holy crap, that's way expensive! Do they know it's a serviceman's copy?


aside from the hilarious price, it looks pretty cool to me.
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Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:23 am

yeah, they know exactly what it is.

the thing is, although 7400 SEK is way too much for this one, it really isn´t THAT much money by swedish standards. for instance, a new CIJ JM is about 9000 ($1260), a new AVRI is closer to 20K ($2.8K), and vintage ones are about 25-35K ($3.5-4.9K).
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Post by chrisjedijane » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:54 am

wow, Swedish prices are even worse than Northern Irish prices!!!
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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by fullerplast » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:32 am

Wow, some of those really impress me (the better ones, anyway).

Especially having seen the "factories" which are really just a shed behind someone's house/store.

The ORIGINAL "factory outlets"...

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Post by mjet » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:08 am

chrisjedijane wrote: wow, Swedish prices are even worse than Northern Irish prices!!!
I have found that in the "our prices are highest" pissing contest, Scandinavia nearly always comes out on top.
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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:01 am

mjet260 wrote:
chrisjedijane wrote: wow, Swedish prices are even worse than Northern Irish prices!!!
I have found that in the "our prices are highest" pissing contest, Scandinavia nearly always comes out on top.
yeah, it´s almost always much cheaper to buy from the US (including shipping & customs costs) than to buy from a shop here. i guess it has to do with the economy being at a high point right now, making foreign goods and currency fairly cheap. back in the 90s, $1 would get you something like 10-11 SEK, but now it´s only around 7. and norway is even more expensive, since they´ve got their oil...

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Post by 1946dodge » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:01 pm

Pardon my stupidity, but what exactly is a "serviceman's: JM?
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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by fuzzking » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:42 am

1946dodge wrote: Pardon my stupidity, but what exactly is a "serviceman's: JM?
there's a thread on this with a great info (pics & story) by fullerplast,
can't  find it right now, anyone's got a linky to it?

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Post by zhivago » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:43 am

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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by fuzzking » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:22 am

Yep. Thanks!  :)
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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by fenderjapan » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:06 am

i have just order a CIJ jaguar fråm www.guitar24.de the price: 5800 SEK , and from a swedish site : 8650 SEK :o
(yep my first offset 8))

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Post by fuzzking » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:19 am

fenderjapan wrote: i have just order a CIJ jaguar fråm www.guitar24.de the price: 5800 SEK , and from a swedish site : 8650 SEK :o
(yep my first offset 8))
They're 200m away from my house. They got incredible prices on almost everything new.
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about guitars, and I went in there, checked the 1st one out, asked for another, then for
another, I almost drove the guy crazy, haha.

But that's about the only good thing about the place I live.

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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by Mad-Mike » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:56 pm

I always thought the recent draw towards the servicemen's guitars is because of those of us who could not afford the real thing, after all, they are (mostly) sub-par compared with the genuine article.

Of course, like all guitars, I Can see them becoming collectable before too long, then we'll be seeing them going for about $800-1000 just because they are rare, and people would be willing to take them at a high price as an investment if the seller say's it's rare (I'm not saying it's wrong or right, I'm just saying, that's how it is).

I find serviceman guitars intriguing the same way I do odd-obscure copy guitars and so fourth, because they're just so strange, and it's kind of neat to see how every manufacturer does something a little different to copy the same design to cut costs.
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Re: serviceman´s jm

Post by fullerplast » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:52 am

Mad-Mike wrote: I always thought the recent draw towards the servicemen's guitars is because of those of us who could not afford the real thing, after all, they are (mostly) sub-par compared with the genuine article.
You're exactly right about that. There was no Fender Japan during the majority of the time the Serviceman's guitars were being built. And budget guitars available in the US in those days were extremely crappy pieces of junk with the strings a foot off the board. Also, there were no inkjet Fender decals. So to be able to get a copy guitar with a logo for $75 - $100 was pretty attractive. Most of the ones I played were not bad when new, although the electronics were always shit.

But currently the only thing they're good for is nostalgia, IMO.
Of course, like all guitars, I Can see them becoming collectable before too long, then we'll be seeing them going for about $800-1000 just because they are rare, and people would be willing to take them at a high price as an investment if the seller say's it's rare (I'm not saying it's wrong or right, I'm just saying, that's how it is).
Right again. They're approaching $500 already. I think that's about the highest I've seen, but thats more than double from a few years ago. They will only go up.
I find serviceman guitars intriguing the same way I do odd-obscure copy guitars and so fourth, because they're just so strange, and it's kind of neat to see how every manufacturer does something a little different to copy the same design to cut costs.
Me too! I  :-* weird and bizarre oddball guitars. I see these in that category more than as a "lawsuit guitar". As cheesy as they are, I wish I had collected some in the early 80s and brought them home. Of course, if I had... they'd be long gone by now anyway and I'd still be wishing.
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