AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

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AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by JUC » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:08 am

(sorry, I'm a newbie :-[)
I found out that my new SB AVRI Jag has a 3-glued-pieces body... Is it ok???
Do vintage Jags have glued bodies too???

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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by mezcalhead » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:16 am

AFAIK one-piece bodies aren't that common in vintage Fenders. My old sunburst '62 is at least a two-piece body, and there were two other old JMs that were stripped when I got them and were definitely 2-3 piece bodies. All sound great, BTW.

Personally I think the obsession with one-piece bodies has arisen with the boutique thing and AAAAAAAAA-grade flamed woods .. I'm not convinced it makes a difference to the sound at all.
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by zhivago » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:21 am

mezcalhead wrote: Personally I think the obsession with one-piece bodies has arisen with the boutique thing and AAAAAAAAA-grade flamed woods .. I'm not convinced it makes a difference to the sound at all.
I agree....let's not forget, all these killer sounding vintage guitars that we hear on records, are hardy ever (if ever) 1-piece.

with any guitar, my main concerns are: does it play well? and does it sound good?

if the answers are "yes" and "yes", who cares about how many pieces of wood it's made of? ;)


I remember pics that Doug posted of a Jag that was 5 pieces...or was it 7?...it was a CBS one....


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it was 13 pieces!!!
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by JUC » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:25 am

mezcalhead wrote: AFAIK one-piece bodies aren't that common in vintage Fenders.
really?! din't know that, I always thought that vintage ones are one-piece!

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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by JUC » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:30 am

zhivago wrote: it was 13 pieces!!!
unbelievable!
well, thank you very much guys, now I can sleep!
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by sookwinder » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:44 am

did you take the pieces apart ? ;)
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Post by zhivago » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:56 am

sookwinder wrote: did you take the pieces apart ? ;)
hehe...I can upload the pics later...it's madness :)
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by chrisjedijane » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:37 am

my AVRI ha sa 3-piece body by the looks of it, and I don't have a problem with it at all :)
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by zhivago » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:48 am

here we go...these are Doug's (Fullerplast) pics of a Jag body he used to own...a '66, I think....

note the 13 pieces!  :o

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Post by JUC » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:56 am

:o
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by mjet » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:09 am

I recall hearing that one-piece bodies have a tendency to warp - that's why they aren't used. A two- or three-piece body seems to be the best insurance against this. That's what the highest-end Fender Custom Shop guitars use, and if there was any benefit (perceived or otherwise) in a one-piece body, that's where you'd see it being offered.
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by Ursoluno » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:50 am

I have NEVER heard of a one-piece Fender body.

That being said, I had never heard of a THIRTEEN-PIECE FREAKIN' BODY before reading this thread, either.

That is CRAZY.  That's up in the "Firebird" range of body piece counts!  Good lord!

Two-piece is the way to go!
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Post by John Taverna » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:57 am

13 pieces ??? ??? ???

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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by fullerplast » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:45 pm

That 13 piece body was an early '67. Fender was experimenting with laminations at the time. Notice the dark line around the belly contour... thats the edge of the bottom laminate. It had a one piece veneer over the top and bottom because it was sunburst, and they needed to hide the butcher-block body.

Another member, IPLAYLOUD has one too, either a '69 Mustang or Bronco, I forget which.  There's a thread on it around here somewhere...
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Re: AVRI Jags and JMs with glued body???

Post by glimmertwin » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:13 pm

mjet260 wrote: I recall hearing that one-piece bodies have a tendency to warp - that's why they aren't used. A two- or three-piece body seems to be the best insurance against this. That's what the highest-end Fender Custom Shop guitars use, and if there was any benefit (perceived or otherwise) in a one-piece body, that's where you'd see it being offered.
I think I have read something similar too(does that make it fact? :) )....I think the idea is to have the grain work in two opposite directions to make it stronger and less open to warping, breaking, cracks, etc.  It's probably not that common with one piece bodies anyway as long as they aren't treated like caveman guitars....  You probably see this argument a lot more with thinner pieces of a guitar like on a neck...like Gibson headstocks - where the debate is what people prefer for their headstock - a one piece neck, a volute, a scarf joint, headplate material, backstrapping, or any combination of all these things....
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