ANOTHER Squire Jagmaster in sliver sparkle...

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Re: ANOTHER Squire Jagmaster in sliver sparkle...

Post by StevenO » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:20 pm

Have you ever adjusted a truss rod before?
You don't just keep turning the allen key until it goes straight.

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Post by mewithoutus » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:16 pm

its weird because i adjusted the saddles for intonation and the bridge is set up, but the neck wont move. i moved it a quarter counterclockwise to add some relief and nothing. nothing seems to be working. i went the other way with no discernible difference.


maybe im not doing something right?
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Post by JazzBlaster » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:17 pm

may be stripped...
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Post by mewithoutus » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:48 pm

JazzBlaster wrote: may be stripped...
well, i feel it moving. its not stripped.
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Post by mynameisjonas » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:57 am

mewithoutus wrote: its weird because i adjusted the saddles for intonation and the bridge is set up, but the neck wont move. i moved it a quarter counterclockwise to add some relief and nothing. nothing seems to be working. i went the other way with no discernible difference.
well that´s squier for ya. i have the same problem with my standard series telecaster.

maybe you need to remove the rod and lubricate it..?

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Post by Naturality » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:47 am

My '51 needs a fair bit of tweaking to get it to move, but beware of going too far

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Post by mewithoutus » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:08 pm

it seems like only the frets 8-12 buz, but thats it. everything else is fine.

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Post by mynameisjonas » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:19 pm

well, that´s usually a sign of the neck having a bit too much relief. i really can´t give any clear advice on this.
i´ve had lots of problems with my squier tele. no matter how much i´ve tightened the truss rod the neck has always went back to the same over-curved state after a few days, and now there´s no more travel left on the rod, so i can´t use the guitar with  my preferred straing gauge.

although it might have something to do with the fact that i smashed the guitar once, and then put it back together... :-[

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Post by pullover » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:06 pm

Truss rod adjustment.
http://www.athensmusician.net/archive/2 ... ody1.shtml
Before you adjust the nut, make a mark on it that corresponds to a fixed point below it on the access channel to the nut. This will help you gauge how much you have turned and may help you get back to "0" if for some reason you get too far off.
The first movement of an unfamiliar rod is always to loosen (counter-clockwise). This accomplishes two things: it gives you an idea of how tight the rod is already and tells you how smoothly it moves. If the rod seems sticky, back it out for removal while counting the turns. Clean it, oil it, and then return it to the original position. Q-tips and WD-40 or 3-in-1 oil are good for this.
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Post by mewithoutus » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:30 pm

mynameisjonas wrote: well, that´s usually a sign of the neck having a bit too much relief. i really can´t give any clear advice on this.
i´ve had lots of problems with my squier tele. no matter how much i´ve tightened the truss rod the neck has always went back to the same over-curved state after a few days, and now there´s no more travel left on the rod, so i can´t use the guitar with  my preferred straing gauge.

although it might have something to do with the fact that i smashed the guitar once, and then put it back together... :-[
i have 9's on there right now. hmmm...
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Post by mewithoutus » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:34 am

do you think it would help if i shimmed the neck???
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Post by mynameisjonas » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:03 am

no, it would make no difference to the curvature of the neck so i don´t think it would solve anything. i think your best bet is to try to clean and oil the rod (using the method posted by pullover).

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Post by i love sharin foo » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:51 am

Also, when adjusting the rod, I like to loosen it a few turns then gently manipulate it in the direction you are wanting, then retighten the nut. That way you can see the changes you've made more rapidly. Otherwise it sometimes takes a few days or more for the neck to show the full effects of the adjustment. Dan Erlewine's guitar repair book is an awesome reference for this sort of thing. I highly recommend it!

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Post by mewithoutus » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:47 am

i love sharin foo wrote: Also, when adjusting the rod, I like to loosen it a few turns then gently manipulate it in the direction you are wanting, then retighten the nut. That way you can see the changes you've made more rapidly. Otherwise it sometimes takes a few days or more for the neck to show the full effects of the adjustment. Dan Erlewine's guitar repair book is an awesome reference for this sort of thing. I highly recommend it!

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hmm, thats interesting. ill try it. GENTLY of course :D
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Re: ANOTHER Squire Jagmaster in sliver sparkle...

Post by fullerplast » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:50 pm

I like to loosen the nut all the way, put the guitar in a vise, and then wail on the neck with a 10 lb sledge in the direction I want it to go. Then I apply max gorilla torque to the truss nut until the anchor breaks loose, then back it off a quarter turn....

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