Gear minimalism as a thought process...

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by mcbrandt » Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:57 am

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But, I only ever want to play my Guild full sized classical. Made of exotic woods in Hoboken, after long years in exile in Pennsylvania, it has returned home to my plangent strums in the Garden State.
I'm jealous. That's my end goal right there, just being happy with only a classical guitar. I'd love to get to the point where I don't like electric guitar anymore.

I guess at the very least I can say I'm more than content with just one electric, a random amp, and 4 pedals. Apart from owning an old ES-125 or something partly as an investment, I really haven't had any GAS or desire for any other guitars or instruments. The one electric just has to be a Jazzmaster.

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by seenoevil II » Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:15 am

mcbrandt wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:57 am
seenoevil II wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:12 pm

But, I only ever want to play my Guild full sized classical. Made of exotic woods in Hoboken, after long years in exile in Pennsylvania, it has returned home to my plangent strums in the Garden State.
I'm jealous. That's my end goal right there, just being happy with only a classical guitar. I'd love to get to the point where I don't like electric guitar anymore.

I guess at the very least I can say I'm more than content with just one electric, a random amp, and 4 pedals. Apart from owning an old ES-125 or something partly as an investment, I really haven't had any GAS or desire for any other guitars or instruments. The one electric just has to be a Jazzmaster.
Don't get me wrong. I still own a billion guitars. I have trouble selling my guitars. Both literally and emotionally. And something tells me that I'll snap outta this at some point. Especially as I work on guitars, and getting into their construction makes me wanna play them. For instance, I'm repairing my 1979 Guild D-25. It's gorgeous and gorgeously made, so I'm for sure gonna want to play that when it's finished.

Call me pretensious, but I almost exclusively play my own material when playing guitar. I don't really play other music simply for pleasure (to my detriment). Thus, the guitars I play are as much about where I am as a musician as anything else. And right now, I guess you can say I'm in a minimalist phase musically.

As for the firebird, that's as much about neck geometry as anything. I thumb wrap a lot which is almost impossible on a classical. Also, the higher fret access.

And here's the kicker. I'm not sure I could be this happy playing just my classical, mini classical, and firebird if I didn't also own (oh god):

3 flat top acoustics
1 archtop acoustic
1 electric 12 string
2 semi hollow thin line electrics
2 fully hollow jazz boxes
1 strat
1 tele
1 jazzmaster
1 les paul

Like, if they all vanished, I think I'd have some kind of discomfort at not having those options even though I don't use them.... or so I thought. I think it's a case of suck it and see. You have to have everything before you can decide if you need anything in particular.

There are things my firebird can't do. It can't do tele bridge, it can't do strat, it can't do neck HB jazz. It's also not perfect. The neck is too thin and whippy. My particular FB isn't even a great vintage or specimen. It's got a weird raddle coming from the pickups and the bridge kinda sucks. But it's all I need right now for what I'm doing.

I do think I could get to where I have just one of each "species." Like, my Guild D25 is the best acoustic by far, so ditch the rest. Then, maybe just my firebird for electric, and maybe one big jazz box, my classical, and a bass.

Then, the ultimate scenario (which I could only forsee in some bizarre circumstance where I'm forced into some kind of itinerant lifestyle). I can see having just one guitar. Probably a full sized jazz box (with our without a cutaway) with a neck pickup and great acoustic projection. Like a vintage gretch clipper or electromatic or an old Levin jazzbox from sweeden, or a vintage Guild. Something with a Dearmond 2000 pickup. Maybe a Gibson es-150 (later, non charlie christian version) with a staple p-90 swapped in.

Like I've said before. My GAS has always been about finding "the one." Except I'm a serial monogamist. But unlike people, you don't need to "break up" with guitars. So, all of my exs just live in boxes throughout my house.
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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by Larsongs » Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:36 am

I still don’t get the Minimalist thing? If you really want be a Minimalist why not get rid of all your Guitars & quit playing music altogether.. That’s about as Minimalist as you can get..

BTW, in addition to my other Guitars, I just added a new Gretsch White Falcon.. I love all kinds of Guitars.. I love playing them & enjoy them…

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by seenoevil II » Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:27 am

Larsongs wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:36 am
I still don’t get the Minimalist thing? If you really want be a Minimalist why not get rid of all your Guitars & quit playing music altogether.. That’s about as Minimalist as you can get..

BTW, in addition to my other Guitars, I just added a new Gretsch White Falcon.. I love all kinds of Guitars.. I love playing them & enjoy them…
Well, I'm not sure I can articulate the non-practical, tangible desire for gear minimalism right now. I'd have to think about it.

But I can say that there are a lot of concrete, practical reasons to go light on gear. Or perhaps more accurately, there are a lot of headaches that (for me at least) come with having a lot of gear, and especially a lot of redundant gear.
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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by mcbrandt » Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:39 am

Larsongs wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:36 am
I still don’t get the Minimalist thing? If you really want be a Minimalist why not get rid of all your Guitars & quit playing music altogether.. That’s about as Minimalist as you can get..

BTW, in addition to my other Guitars, I just added a new Gretsch White Falcon.. I love all kinds of Guitars.. I love playing them & enjoy them…
Maybe instead of selling our gear and quitting music we should just kill ourselves and not exist, that'd be as minimal as a person can get huh? Talk about missing the point, bud.

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by javier-san » Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:46 am

Don't mind him, y'all. He's been making the saying the same exact thing (over and over again) since the creation of the thread.

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by distressed » Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:11 am

I tend to follow simple set of rules - I play in a semi pro band, and have only limited time to play my gear, besides my full time job and my family. I have to write songs, practice and rehearse with the band, record, do some gigs/tours, all that in said limited time. And I tend to bond fully with all my gear, to know it thoroughly, so there's simply no room for hoarding or flipping. And I hate having redundant or unnecessary stuff around, so I'm down now to 2 fully used guitars, two amps and some 10+ fully utilized pedals.

Still I catch myself looking at stuff online more than I should and thinking about it, but fortunately manage to resist buying. The big problem is, musical gear definitely has become a lifestyle/consumer items in the past few decades, and we have fast internet and shitloads of sites and we tend to waste time on it.
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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by andy_tchp » Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:49 pm

Larsongs wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:36 am
I still don’t get the Minimalist thing? If you really want be a Minimalist why not get rid of all your Guitars & quit playing music altogether.. That’s about as Minimalist as you can get..

BTW, in addition to my other Guitars, I just added a new Gretsch White Falcon.. I love all kinds of Guitars.. I love playing them & enjoy them…
Yes, you've already mentioned this about a dozen times since the thread was started a couple of years ago.

Thanks (again) for the valuable input ::)
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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by Larsongs » Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:36 pm

andy_tchp wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:49 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:36 am
I still don’t get the Minimalist thing? If you really want be a Minimalist why not get rid of all your Guitars & quit playing music altogether.. That’s about as Minimalist as you can get..

BTW, in addition to my other Guitars, I just added a new Gretsch White Falcon.. I love all kinds of Guitars.. I love playing them & enjoy them…
Yes, you've already mentioned this about a dozen times since the thread was started a couple of years ago.

Thanks (again) for the valuable input ::)
I get how some only need or want one or two Guitars. Many of the Greats played one Guitar. It’s not how many Guitars you’ve got that makes you good. It’s how good you play the one you’re playing.

I play several different genres & the sound of different Guitars affects how well a genre sounds. At least to my ear.. I love my Jag & JM for Surf music.. My Strat, LP or ES335 for Blues & Rock. My Ric’s & Casino’s for Brit Invasion music. My Martin D-35 & Gibson J-160E for Acoustic music.. And so on…

I play in 3 different Bands that play lot of different music. To sound right certain Guitars work better than others..

I’m impressed that some guys can do it all with one or two Guitars.. I’m not that good.. I need all the help I can get!

I know lots of you dislike my posts. My apologies for offending you. Play in good health.. One thing for sure this Thread isn’t minimalist! 29 Pages! LOL!

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by Maggieo » Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:35 pm

I think I've found a different route to minimalism- I have a big collection of guitars and stuff, so that's not minimal!

But anytime I play these days, it's just guitar--->--->cord--->amp. I turn the amp up to "10" and use the volume and tone on my guitar to get whatever sounds I want. Since my amps usually have reverb and trem, the amp covers what I'd usually put in front of things. Or, if an amp doesn't have those, I use my DECO and nothing else.

It's like Five Watt World says, "getting the most out of the least." Also, Jim Campilongo does it this way and next to Julian Lage, he's my guru.
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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by JVG » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:21 am

Maggieo wrote:
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I turn the amp up to "10" and use the volume and tone on my guitar to get whatever sounds I want.
Pffft, only 10?

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by JSett » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:13 am

New plan. Sacrifices had to be made to accommodate the LP in my life. Baritone has gone already, Musicmaster is going to a forumite. Which leaves me with:

1x MIJ Jazzmaster (Inca)
1x MIJ Jaguar (OTM)
1x 56 LP Custom (black)
1x AO60s Telecaster (BMM)
1x Rickenbacker 360 (Jetglow)
1x '79 Guild S-60 (cherry)
1x MIC Hello Kitty Strat (black)

1x MIJ Jaguar Bass (black)
1x Yamaha FSX-5 acoustic

1x 1928 Ludwig Banjo
1x Jazzmaster Ukulele (tidepool)
1x Makaio Pineapple Ukulele (koa)

1x 65 Vibrochamp
1x Balls Ballsmom 50
1x Orange AD5
1x '83 Roland Cube 40
1x '82 Roland Cube 60 Bass
1x Victory The Jack
1x Orange Terror Bass II 500
1x Seymour Duncan Powerstage 200
Multiple cabs
Multiple pedals
Hundreds of parts

1x 60's Gem Organ
1x 70's Gem Organ
1x other 70s Organ I cant remember the name of
1x Yamaha YC keyboard


....actually that list is kind of terrifying. And there's probably more in the attic.
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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by Larsongs » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:48 am

JSett wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:13 am
New plan. Sacrifices had to be made to accommodate the LP in my life. Baritone has gone already, Musicmaster is going to a forumite. Which leaves me with:

1x MIJ Jazzmaster (Inca)
1x MIJ Jaguar (OTM)
1x 56 LP Custom (black)
1x AO60s Telecaster (BMM)
1x Rickenbacker 360 (Jetglow)
1x '79 Guild S-60 (cherry)
1x MIC Hello Kitty Strat (black)

1x MIJ Jaguar Bass (black)
1x Yamaha FSX-5 acoustic

1x 1928 Ludwig Banjo
1x Jazzmaster Ukulele (tidepool)
1x Makaio Pineapple Ukulele (koa)

1x 65 Vibrochamp
1x Balls Ballsmom 50
1x Orange AD5
1x '83 Roland Cube 40
1x '82 Roland Cube 60 Bass
1x Victory The Jack
1x Orange Terror Bass II 500
1x Seymour Duncan Powerstage 200
Multiple cabs
Multiple pedals
Hundreds of parts

1x 60's Gem Organ
1x 70's Gem Organ
1x other 70s Organ I cant remember the name of
1x Yamaha YC keyboard


....actually that list is kind of terrifying. And there's probably more in the attic.
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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by marqueemoon » Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:28 am

I actually sold a guitar yesterday! My bandmate bought it to give to his 10 year old niece for her birthday.

I think a lot of my problem with letting stuff go is the transaction feels icky.

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Re: Gear minimalism as a thought process...

Post by Salfaromeab » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:53 am

I'd love to downsize gearwise, probably not to a minimalist level but I definitely have too much stuff I don't really use. I unfortunately get very sentimental about gear. I have a Deluxe Reverb I don't use but don't want to get rid of because it was my 18th birthday present, a Partsmaster that I've not picked up properly in a few years but was my first proper guitar, a Hallmark that I don't really like playing but I bought from a friend. Can't seem to let that sort of thing go and just move them on for what they are, just things. Blegh.
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