Thin line Jazzmasters?

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:00 pm


But yeah - big fan of the thinline. I love hollowbodies and implementing some of those qualities into a JM is pretty nice. Def worth it. Good luck!
Exactly what I’m thinking!
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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:01 pm

chrisrnps wrote:
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What is the fascination with a Thinline JM? The weight being much lighter? Or the F hole? Or?
All the possibilities and various provenances of center-block-semihollows crossed with a favorite-of-all-time postmodern classic form factor? Yes, please.
Well you win on explaining it! Exactly!

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:01 pm

So anyone other than Saylor making good legit thinline JM bodies?

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by NICQ » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:11 am

Don't know if Dan (user Deed_Poll on here) is offering to do another build - you'd have to ask him

I ordered this one as custom build :

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 8&t=110176

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 8&t=112681

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:52 pm

NICQ wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:11 am
Don't know if Dan (user Deed_Poll on here) is offering to do another build - you'd have to ask him

I ordered this one as custom build :

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 8&t=110176

http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 8&t=112681
I love love love it. Gorgeous, and belated congratulations. How is it working out for you, sound, playability? How much does it weigh?

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by Maggieo » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:25 pm

RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
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Maggieo wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:22 am
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Another vote for Bilt.
I think mine must have been a lemon. I hated it.
Well it could happen to the best of ‘em. What about it didn’t work for you?
I could never get the pickups dialed, the neck was full of flat spots and sticky as hell, the Mastery trem's arm tension wouldn't stay in adjustment, the pots last 20% of arc were on/off, and it refused to stay in tune.
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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:49 pm

Maggieo wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:25 pm
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:50 pm
Maggieo wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:22 am


I think mine must have been a lemon. I hated it.
Well it could happen to the best of ‘em. What about it didn’t work for you?
I could never get the pickups dialed, the neck was full of flat spots and sticky as hell, the Mastery trem's arm tension wouldn't stay in adjustment, the pots last 20% of arc were on/off, and it refused to stay in tune.
Dang! Did you ever take it to a tech to help you sort it out? But yeah sounds like maybe you got a dud!

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by Jan Deal » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:19 pm

I really like the idea of an thin line offset, but I think that having an f-hole on the top of the guitar looks a little off. Has anyone ever designed a guitar with the f-hole on the bottom? I know this would change how controls are setup and the pickguard, but I think it would be more aesthetically pleasing.
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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by Larsongs » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:37 am

RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:58 pm
alexpigment wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:35 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:36 am
What is the fascination with a Thinline JM? The weight being much lighter? Or the F hole? Or?
I don't know how much experience you've had with thinlines, but one of my main guitars is a thinline tele. The tone always seemed more balanced (more midrange, less icepick) compared to the exact same pickups in a solid body tele, and also it just sounds a lot more lively. I should note that I play 90% of the time at volumes where you can still hear a little bit of the acoustic sound (you can still hear it even with a somewhat cranked amp). It's possible that the liveliness is just a mixture of the electric and acoustic sounds reaching your ear. Either way, that's the effect and it really just makes me want to play the guitar more. I'd almost always lean toward a thinline guitar unless it led to other issues like neck dive, or just being too light to bend notes easily. As for the visual appeal of thinlines, I don't feel strongly one way or the other.
Nicely described.
I have a Reissue Fender '69 Thinline Tele in Aged Olympic White... It's a beautiful Guitar, weighs 5.5 lbs. But for some reason I haven't bonded with it as much as I thought I would?

I too really like the OP's explanation & perspective. Particularly about blending the Acoustic & Electric sound... I have to give that a try..

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by Maggieo » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:02 am

RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:49 pm
Maggieo wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:25 pm
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:50 pm


Well it could happen to the best of ‘em. What about it didn’t work for you?
I could never get the pickups dialed, the neck was full of flat spots and sticky as hell, the Mastery trem's arm tension wouldn't stay in adjustment, the pots last 20% of arc were on/off, and it refused to stay in tune.
Dang! Did you ever take it to a tech to help you sort it out? But yeah sounds like maybe you got a dud!
Yeah, my tech and I did everything we could think of, but when we fixed one problem, another cropped up. And to think, I traded away my Swart AST. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:26 pm

Maggieo wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:02 am
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:49 pm
Maggieo wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:25 pm


I could never get the pickups dialed, the neck was full of flat spots and sticky as hell, the Mastery trem's arm tension wouldn't stay in adjustment, the pots last 20% of arc were on/off, and it refused to stay in tune.
Dang! Did you ever take it to a tech to help you sort it out? But yeah sounds like maybe you got a dud!
Yeah, my tech and I did everything we could think of, but when we fixed one problem, another cropped up. And to think, I traded away my Swart AST. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Man I hate it when one gets unlucky and gets a basket case guitar. Sorry to hear about you losing your Swart.

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by RocknRollShakeUp » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:28 pm

Larsongs wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:37 am
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:58 pm
alexpigment wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:35 pm


I don't know how much experience you've had with thinlines, but one of my main guitars is a thinline tele. The tone always seemed more balanced (more midrange, less icepick) compared to the exact same pickups in a solid body tele, and also it just sounds a lot more lively. I should note that I play 90% of the time at volumes where you can still hear a little bit of the acoustic sound (you can still hear it even with a somewhat cranked amp). It's possible that the liveliness is just a mixture of the electric and acoustic sounds reaching your ear. Either way, that's the effect and it really just makes me want to play the guitar more. I'd almost always lean toward a thinline guitar unless it led to other issues like neck dive, or just being too light to bend notes easily. As for the visual appeal of thinlines, I don't feel strongly one way or the other.
Nicely described.
I have a Reissue Fender '69 Thinline Tele in Aged Olympic White... It's a beautiful Guitar, weighs 5.5 lbs. But for some reason I haven't bonded with it as much as I thought I would?

I too really like the OP's explanation & perspective. Particularly about blending the Acoustic & Electric sound... I have to give that a try..
He isn’t the OP but am sure glad he chimed in.

Does that 5.5lb Tele Thinline neck dive on you?

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by Larsongs » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:49 pm

RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:28 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:37 am
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:58 pm


Nicely described.
I have a Reissue Fender '69 Thinline Tele in Aged Olympic White... It's a beautiful Guitar, weighs 5.5 lbs. But for some reason I haven't bonded with it as much as I thought I would?

I too really like the OP's explanation & perspective. Particularly about blending the Acoustic & Electric sound... I have to give that a try..
He isn’t the OP but am sure glad he chimed in.

Does that 5.5lb Tele Thinline neck dive on you?
Standing with Guitar strap it hangs slightly angled up at about 10:00... If I raise it to about 11:00 it wants to readjust to the 10:00 position. Which is where I like it anyhow..

I played it unplugged for a while tonight & compared it's Acoustic sound to my other Hollow & Semi Hollow Electric Guitars. Gretsch G5120, Ric 360 6 string, Ric 360 12 string & Epiphone Casino. The Thinline has the least Acoustic volume of them all. The Gretsch big body sounds like an Acoustic Guitar unplugged. The Ric's & Casino's are close.

The Thinline sounds good too but not much Acoustic volume...

I have to be honest, I've played for a lot of years & have always approached them like Solid Body Electrics.. Just go for great Electric Sounds. I've never really thought about trying adjust the Volume & Tone levels at a Sweet Spot for an Electric & Acoustic Sound.. At least consciously... Maybe subconsciously? I'll have to do some A, B, C & D comps... I'll let you know...

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

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Re: Thin line Jazzmasters?

Post by Mechanical Birds » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:09 pm

Maggieo wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:25 pm
RocknRollShakeUp wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:50 pm
Maggieo wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:22 am


I think mine must have been a lemon. I hated it.
Well it could happen to the best of ‘em. What about it didn’t work for you?

I could never get the pickups dialed, the neck was full of flat spots and sticky as hell, the Mastery trem's arm tension wouldn't stay in adjustment, the pots last 20% of arc were on/off, and it refused to stay in tune.
Really? That’s a shame. I thought for sure I remembered you posting about setting it up and how it was way better and more fun. Did that not happen? Why did I think that was a thing?

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