Jaguar saddle question.

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Jaguar saddle question.

Post by kizzer » Mon May 06, 2019 8:32 am

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I have owned a Japanese Fender Jaguar reissue from new which I bought in 1996. It has the Fender 50th anniversary sticker on the back and has always been my favorite guitar to play. Which is why it always mystified me when I read people had problems with the strings popping out of the saddles. My brother in law recently bought a 93 Japanese Jaguar which I tried today. The saddle is totally different and I had 'the problem of the strings popping out of the saddle'.

So was wondering if anybody had any information on this design and what its called? Its like a tune'o'matic, but they can also be moved sideways. Here's a picture:

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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by HNB » Mon May 06, 2019 9:00 am

Pretty cool design. :)
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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by kimson » Mon May 06, 2019 10:44 am

Looks like Schaller STM.

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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by HNB » Mon May 06, 2019 11:24 am

Looks like it is on backwards too. The deeper groove should be with the low E instead of the high one to help keep the strings in the rollers. :D (but if it works, it works.) :D
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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by kizzer » Mon May 06, 2019 12:57 pm

HNB wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 9:00 am
Pretty cool design. :)
Yeah, its works superb, never had any strings popping out.
kimson wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 10:44 am
Looks like Schaller STM.
That's the one! Cheers, that makes sense as Fender did use Schaller parts, but this saddle on a Jag seems quite rare.
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Mon May 06, 2019 11:24 am
Looks like it is on backwards too. The deeper groove should be with the low E instead of the high one to help keep the strings in the rollers. :D (but if it works, it works.) :D
Trick of perspective I'm afraid, all grooves are identical size.

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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by Zork » Mon May 06, 2019 1:13 pm

I had one of these on my Heritage Les Paul. Awesome bridge, highly functional and perfect design.

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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by pikmin » Mon May 06, 2019 1:16 pm

I have the same bridge on my Custom 77 lust for life with a Bigsby .
It’s a great bridge but the radius is 14 .
And the radius of the CIJ 93 Jaguar should be 7,25 .

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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by kizzer » Mon May 06, 2019 2:29 pm

pikmin wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:16 pm
I have the same bridge on my Custom 77 lust for life with a Bigsby .
It’s a great bridge but the radius is 14 .
And the radius of the CIJ 93 Jaguar should be 7,25 .
Just had a measure, my '96 model is 7,25 and the saddle is a 12 radius! The things you learn, I've had it for over 20 years and its always been my favourite for feel and play ability.

Makes me wonder whether or not these were stock on the 96 anniversary models or if it was just put on at the music shop I bought it from. Either way, I'm thankful they did!

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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by timtam » Mon May 06, 2019 5:04 pm

The Schaller STM is the go-to solution when you want to change string spacing on a TOM. 48.5 to 57.5mm range. Spec-ed as 12" radius.
https://schaller.info/en/bridges/328/stm
"I just knew I wanted to make a sound that was the complete opposite of a Les Paul, and that’s pretty much a Jaguar." Rowland S. Howard.

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Re: Jaguar saddle question.

Post by kimson » Mon May 06, 2019 9:44 pm

It really is a great design. Looks cool, too, unlike its equally great sibling, the 3D hardtail bridge.

I had an STM on a JM with a Bigsby and it worked like a charm, but in the end I wanted the traditional JM appointments and ended up routing and redrilling. The inserts were 6.5mm (or something like that) so it isn't a drop-in replacement.

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