Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by sunburster » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:41 pm

Always-Ben wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:11 pm
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It’s beautiful...but it seems weird to have a 1959 thinskin that has the same specs and parts as the AV65 Jazzmasters.
They probably copied and pasted the specs from the AV65, since they don't fit with the paragraph describing the guitar. We probably won't get the real specs till later.
One problem with that theory: AV65s don't have gold aluminum pickguards or chrome flat-top knobs. The alder part is clearly a typo, and maybe they do have different pickups, but the rest of the specs look accurate.

Also keep in mind Wildwood/Fender are known to change the pickups on Thin Skins without warning. I've seen their thin skin Teles ship with one set of pickups one week, then another the next. It seems Fender just throws in whatever they have lying around for them.

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Francer » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:12 am

Larsongs wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:25 am

Where can I get that Pickguard for my AV65 JM?

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here

This is mine, it’s quite a nice pale gold, fitted well, just a bit of minor sanding around the neck pocket, and also a very gentle (you don’t want to take off the colour) run around the perimeter with some sandpaper to remove the burrs.

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by pikmin » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:04 am

Francer wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:12 am
Larsongs wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:25 am

Where can I get that Pickguard for my AV65 JM?

Thanks
here

This is mine, it’s quite a nice pale gold, fitted well, just a bit of minor sanding around the neck pocket, and also a very gentle (you don’t want to take off the colour) run around the perimeter with some sandpaper to remove the burrs.

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I got this one ! Absolutely Great and less expensive :

https://www.emma-music.com/m/pickguard- ... JZ-060.cfm

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Debaser » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:54 am

Funny they get the specs twisted. I don’t know about anyone else, but I can’t lay down that kind of scratch in a pre-order without knowing the specs.
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Post by BobL » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:02 am

Yeah, I'm close enough to go try one when they come out...

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Post by rbrcbr » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:16 am

Hmmmm, curious that they reissued these again. Always wanted one of those but they're nearly impossible to find these days. I don't know what it is, but something about these seems different from the previous reissue? Maybe it's just the photos of the prototype? It's like the older '59 ri had a more aged look? Not relic'd, but maybe just aged dots like someone mentioned? Something seems off.

I"m wondering if this is going to drive up the prices on the former reissues whenever people decide to sell the older ones.

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Larsongs » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 am

pikmin wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:04 am
Francer wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:12 am
Larsongs wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:25 am

Where can I get that Pickguard for my AV65 JM?

Thanks
here

This is mine, it’s quite a nice pale gold, fitted well, just a bit of minor sanding around the neck pocket, and also a very gentle (you don’t want to take off the colour) run around the perimeter with some sandpaper to remove the burrs.

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I got this one ! Absolutely Great and less expensive :

https://www.emma-music.com/m/pickguard- ... JZ-060.cfm
Thanks for the referrals to both Posters.

Are both authentic USA Fender Annodized Gold? PickguardsAre they both Aluminum or Metal or Plastic?

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Francer » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm

Larsongs wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 am
Are both authentic USA Fender Annodized Gold? PickguardsAre they both Aluminum or Metal or Plastic?
Made in Holland, not a Fender product. It is a nice brushed aluminium gold anodized finish though. Here’s a close up of the finish, it’s taken in artificial light so looks more gold than it really is, just to show the brushed effect, although I’m not sure the pic does it justice, it looks much nicer on the guitar, see my first pic of the whole guitar in daylight which is a truer representation.

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Larsongs » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:30 pm

Francer wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 am
Are both authentic USA Fender Annodized Gold? PickguardsAre they both Aluminum or Metal or Plastic?
Made in Holland, not a Fender product. It is a nice brushed aluminium gold anodized finish though. Here’s a close up of the finish, it’s taken in artificial light so looks more gold than it really is, just to show the brushed effect, although I’m not sure the pic does it justice, it looks much nicer on the guitar, see my first pic of the whole guitar in daylight which is a truer representation.

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Your Guitar looks great in the Pics. Have you seen an actual '59 Reissue in that color? if so, would say it's accurate to the '59 Reissue?

Is that French Francs?? Or?? how much USD?

Thanks,

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Mechanical Birds » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:29 pm

BobL wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:27 am
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Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:20 am
I wonder what the neck carve is like, I have a neck from the original 2008 AVRI thinskin 59 on my AV65, it’s super slim but I really like it, although I loved the thicker original AV65 neck too, it was more an aesthetic choice as much as anything.
Dunno... my Wildwood '65 has a pretty chunky C - my guess is it'll be that profile since it seems popular, and they are keeping the 9.5" radius. Eyeballing the pic of the back of this one makes me think that's the case.
I love the neck on the AV65 guitars so, so much. Really wish it was possible to retain the look of a gloss finish while having the feel of a satin finish though - that’s my only gripe whatsoever. The JMJM hype is well deserved and probably is still my favorite, but the AV65 neck is amazing too.

I’ve never played a 59 so I have no idea what a true-to-the-original version would be, but it’d be cool if they actually made it the same as opposed to making cosmetic changes to what essentially is an entirely different guitar and marketing it as a specific year’s reissue.

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Francer » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:40 pm

Larsongs wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:30 pm
Francer wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 am
Are both authentic USA Fender Annodized Gold? PickguardsAre they both Aluminum or Metal or Plastic?
Made in Holland, not a Fender product. It is a nice brushed aluminium gold anodized finish though. Here’s a close up of the finish, it’s taken in artificial light so looks more gold than it really is, just to show the brushed effect, although I’m not sure the pic does it justice, it looks much nicer on the guitar, see my first pic of the whole guitar in daylight which is a truer representation.
Your Guitar looks great in the Pics. Have you seen an actual '59 Reissue in that color? if so, would say it's accurate to the '59 Reissue?

Is that French Francs?? Or?? how much USD?

Thanks,

L
I think you may have our links mixed up, mine is the ebay one, priced £59.99 gbp (at least when viewed from uk). here’s the link again.

Here’s what was advertised as a 2008 thinskin AVRI 59 body that a guy parted out during the summer last year, I grabbed a screen shot of the body because the guy later sold the neck and I bought it. I thought having a shot of the body might help the provenance of the neck if I ever decided to sell it in the future. He put the neck on a strat and put a strat headstock logo on it so now my sunburst AV has a strat logo on the headstock, I was going to change it but I sort of like it now in a quirky way :)

Check the picture, I would say just from this picture evidence that the pickguard on this body is less brushed than mine, the ad may still be up as a sold listing on Reverb, you might be able to find more pics if you search, I’ll leave that as an exercise for you :)

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by Larsongs » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:27 am

Francer wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:40 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:30 pm
Francer wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm


Made in Holland, not a Fender product. It is a nice brushed aluminium gold anodized finish though. Here’s a close up of the finish, it’s taken in artificial light so looks more gold than it really is, just to show the brushed effect, although I’m not sure the pic does it justice, it looks much nicer on the guitar, see my first pic of the whole guitar in daylight which is a truer representation.
Your Guitar looks great in the Pics. Have you seen an actual '59 Reissue in that color? if so, would say it's accurate to the '59 Reissue?

Is that French Francs?? Or?? how much USD?

Thanks,

L
I think you may have our links mixed up, mine is the ebay one, priced £59.99 gbp (at least when viewed from uk). here’s the link again.

Here’s what was advertised as a 2008 thinskin AVRI 59 body that a guy parted out during the summer last year, I grabbed a screen shot of the body because the guy later sold the neck and I bought it. I thought having a shot of the body might help the provenance of the neck if I ever decided to sell it in the future. He put the neck on a strat and put a strat headstock logo on it so now my sunburst AV has a strat logo on the headstock, I was going to change it but I sort of like it now in a quirky way :)

Check the picture, I would say just from this picture evidence that the pickguard on this body is less brushed than mine, the ad may still be up as a sold listing on Reverb, you might be able to find more pics if you search, I’ll leave that as an exercise for you :)

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Sorry for the Mix up.

Why would that guy do that? I've seen & played the previous RI 59 JM & it was a work of Art! Wish I could've bought it but wasn't for sale.

I'll check it out...

Thanks,

L

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by popvulture » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:41 pm

Just here to say that thing is extremely lovely and I want one. God dammit.

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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by tammyw » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:05 am

rbrcbr wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:16 am
Hmmmm, curious that they reissued these again. Always wanted one of those but they're nearly impossible to find these days. I don't know what it is, but something about these seems different from the previous reissue? Maybe it's just the photos of the prototype? It's like the older '59 ri had a more aged look? Not relic'd, but maybe just aged dots like someone mentioned? Something seems off.
Could just be the pictures, but the pickguard on that new one might be a little lighter, and the white a bit less transparent. Mainly I think the older ones had a really orange neck tint.
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Re: Wildwood '59 'Thin Skin' Jazzmasters

Post by BobL » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:38 pm

OP w/ an update - they got a few of these in, so I went down and checked the two remaining out (apparently more on the way) and ended up buying one.

I compared with a used '58 RI from the Custom Shop, which was certainly nicer (REALLY liked the pickups in the CS guitar), but they compared well. Everything seemed on par with the quality of the other Thin Skins.

Pickups are in fact the '62 AVRI pickups, not the '65s.

I figured even after a bridge and collett/arm swap, neck shim, pot replacement I'll still come out far enough ahead vs the used CS guitar that it was the right move. Fit and finish are great, neck is comfy, pickguard looks nice. I need to try in my own rig, but my initial impression was that the '62 pickups were warmer than the '65s in my other thin skin, and I liked them.

The one I grabbed...

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