Discussion of newer designs, copies and reissue offset-waist instruments.
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601210
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by 601210 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:31 am
Marc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:18 am
6. Custom trem arm - either with the part that fits with the vibrato made an inch or so longer so it can do the 'seasick chord bends' OR with a plastic collet/sleeve that prevents it from going all the way in (KS has improvised this with tape). The trem will swing very loosely as KS demonstrates - it's the exact opposite of the behaviour Johnny Marr specified in fact. Perhaps Staytrem will start offering an MBV 'swinger' arm as a replacement trem collet and trem arm to mimic this behavior! That would be cool.
Huh, plastic sleeve is actually a good idea, don't know why I didn't think of that before.
I do a semi-Kevin Shields sort of thing with electric tape where the arm is in the collet, but if it goes too far in it bottoms out so the tape acts as a stop to put it where it grips but it doesn't go any further.
I should ask a friend about laser cutting some acrylic for me...
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Harmoncj
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by Harmoncj » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:13 am
Marc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:18 am
7. I think it would be a vintage bridge as KS has mentioned in the past liking the harmonic 'pings' you get when a string gets stuck in a groove and then releases itself. He many years ago mentioned in an interview deliberately roughing up his saddles to cause this behavior on one or two guitars when they recorded Loveless. I was only talking yesterday about missing this with my Staytrem bridge.
weird! I know the sound and I think you can pick it out in certain eras of sonic youth but I'll try to keep an ear for it next time i spin loveless
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daysleeperjeff
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by daysleeperjeff » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:37 pm
BlueMelody wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:41 pm
daysleeperjeff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:33 pm
burpgun wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:19 am
You're most likely correct. But if Robert Smith got anything out of Fender, it should be a Bass VI. As an instrumentalist, it's where he made his most distinctive mark. As the Edge is to echo, Robert Smith is to Bass VI. Can you even think of another guy who featured a Bass VI so prominently in their work?
Exactly right! The Jazzmaster defined some of his early sound but in the Grand scheme of his career the Bass VI is his “signature” sound unique to The Cure.
I’ll second a RS Bass VI!!!
But, his early sound on those pre Head On The Door records are the best...to me at least
To me it's the Kiss Me album to Bloodflowers era that I love the most. To each his own. Never a huge fan of the thinner sounding, gothy stuff.
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daysleeperjeff
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by daysleeperjeff » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:39 pm
Wild Nothing is one of my favorite modern bands. New album out at the end of August!
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by mackerelmint » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:49 pm
BlueMelody wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:11 am
I give him high marks for sticking to his guns, the melted wallflower look is just part of his whole evolution.
More like melted clown. There's no dignity in that.
This is an excellent rectangle
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BlueMelody
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by BlueMelody » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:38 pm
daysleeperjeff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:37 pm
BlueMelody wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:41 pm
daysleeperjeff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:33 pm
Exactly right! The Jazzmaster defined some of his early sound but in the Grand scheme of his career the Bass VI is his “signature” sound unique to The Cure.
I’ll second a RS Bass VI!!!
But, his early sound on those pre Head On The Door records are the best...to me at least
To me it's the Kiss Me album to Bloodflowers era that I love the most. To each his own. Never a huge fan of the thinner sounding, gothy stuff.
I was a big fan early on, the minimalistic stark/icy cold beauty of Seventeen Seconds and Faith is what I still love best...but the post punk/gothy stuff is what I grew up on, so there’s that
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BlueMelody
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by BlueMelody » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:40 pm
mackerelmint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:49 pm
BlueMelody wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:11 am
I give him high marks for sticking to his guns, the melted wallflower look is just part of his whole evolution.
More like melted clown. There's no dignity in that.
. I think he can do as he well pleases at this point in his career...he’s earned that much, in my estimation. But as they say, haters gonna hate...
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TeenageShutdown!
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by TeenageShutdown! » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:21 am
daysleeperjeff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:39 pm
Wild Nothing is one of my favorite modern bands. New album out at the end of August!
Didn’t know Billy Corgan was fronting another band...
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by aliendawg » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:51 am
Wild Nothing, DIIV, Beach Fossils... They're all great bands if you're interested in Kevin Shields influenced music
"With the resurgence of offsets it seems like we're also seeing a resurgence of people who don't know what to do with them" - 601210
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daemon
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by daemon » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:57 am
aliendawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:51 am
Wild Nothing, DIIV, Beach Fossils... They're all great bands if you're interested in Kevin Shields influenced music
Wild Nothing and Beach Fossils are great. Got to see the latter with Rachel Goswell of Slowdive guesting on one track at FYE Fest last year. Never heard of DIIV so I'll have to keep an eye out for that.
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aliendawg
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by aliendawg » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:30 am
daemon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:57 am
aliendawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:51 am
Wild Nothing, DIIV, Beach Fossils... They're all great bands if you're interested in Kevin Shields influenced music
Wild Nothing and Beach Fossils are great. Got to see the latter with Rachel Goswell of Slowdive guesting on one track at FYE Fest last year. Never heard of DIIV so I'll have to keep an eye out for that.
Yes! She sings on "Tangerine". They seem like nice guys too from what I've seen on social media. Now DIIV doesn't sound that good live but their records are pretty good.
Apparently those band are all close friends too
"With the resurgence of offsets it seems like we're also seeing a resurgence of people who don't know what to do with them" - 601210
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dren68
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by dren68 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:05 am
aliendawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:51 am
Wild Nothing, DIIV, Beach Fossils... They're all great bands if you're interested in Kevin Shields influenced music
Don't forget Ringo Deathstarr.
Not sure about a KS signature, since they're mostly stock. I'd much rather see a Bilinda Butcher signature Stang-Master.
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invisible man
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by invisible man » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:11 am
dren68 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:05 am
aliendawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:51 am
Wild Nothing, DIIV, Beach Fossils... They're all great bands if you're interested in Kevin Shields influenced music
Don't forget Ringo Deathstarr.
Not sure about a KS signature, since they're mostly stock. I'd much rather see a Bilinda Butcher signature Stang-Master.
I saw MBV live last week and Bilinda had a bunch of custom/customized sparkle mustangs in red, green & silver (hollow body) and maybe a jaguar too? I hadn't seen that many offsets together on stage since Sonic Youth. Debbie Googe had an interesting custom/customized bass too, not sure what it was. Might have been a Jaguar Bass with JM sized pickups in a Jazz Bass configuration. I'm sure someone here knows. Any signature Kevin or Bilinda guitar should come with a built in device that fills any room it is in with pink smoke.
https://soundcloud.com/billy-gashade
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invisible man
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by invisible man » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:13 am
invisible man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:11 am
dren68 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:05 am
aliendawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:51 am
Wild Nothing, DIIV, Beach Fossils... They're all great bands if you're interested in Kevin Shields influenced music
Don't forget Ringo Deathstarr.
Not sure about a KS signature, since they're mostly stock. I'd much rather see a Bilinda Butcher signature Stang-Master.
I saw MBV live last week and Bilinda had a bunch of custom/customized sparkle mustangs in red, green & silver (hollow body) and maybe a jaguar too? I hadn't seen that many offsets together on stage since Sonic Youth. Debbie Googe had an interesting custom/customized bass too, not sure what it was. Might have been a Jaguar Bass with JM sized pickups in a Jazz Bass configuration. I'm sure someone here knows. Any signature Kevin or Bilinda guitar should come with a built in device that fills any room it is in with pink smoke.
Wasn't close enough to get pics, just a short vid of the stage
https://i.imgur.com/Qonk4B0.mp4
https://soundcloud.com/billy-gashade
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SadFuzz
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by SadFuzz » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:19 am
Part 2 of the Fender interview. No signature yet but I feel their might be more...
https://youtu.be/gxkzYCT2NGM
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