Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by sirspens » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:34 am

spingo wrote:
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Curious as to how much the pawn store sold it for?
Less! :)
Stories of people finding great deals in pawn shops is so weird to me. Every time I go to pawn shops they have a line of dusty black Squier Affinity Strats with $250 price tags hanging from them, or something like that.

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by countertext » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:56 am

I haven't come across a good deal in a pawnshop since about 1995. I blame the internet.

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by spingo » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:32 am

If it's any consolation, this is the first truly nutty thing I've ever found at a pawn shop (some good deals along the way, though), and I bet that it's because they couldn't Google it in 10 seconds.

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by Embenny » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:17 am

spingo wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:32 am
If it's any consolation, this is the first truly nutty thing I've ever found at a pawn shop (some good deals along the way, though), and I bet that it's because they couldn't Google it in 10 seconds.
That's the sweet spot. Has to be rare enough that they truly don't know what they have.

I'm still haunted by the story I read on a forum almost 20 years ago about the guy who pulled a 1946 K&F 1x8" amp out of a bin at a pawn shop and bought it for $10 in the early days of the internet. What a find.
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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by Acidhouse » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:59 pm

Not quite as good but I remember a post on the FDP about a decade ago where some guy found a Squier in a trash can set out by the curb of someone's house. He posted pics to see if anyone could id the model. Turned out it was a first issue JV Series. Pretty much the equivalent of throwing out an American Standard Strat.

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by simonhpieman » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:19 am

countertext wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:56 am
I haven't come across a good deal in a pawnshop since about 1995. I blame the internet.
You're looking in the wrong places. A gear-hire place in London that used to send stuff out for tours etc. were having a clear out through eBay but clearly gave the work-experence kid the job of listing it all.

Cue me haggling them down from £295 on an MIJ Matsumoku Epiphone Riviera that they had listed as a 339 (not seen one go for less than £800, many of them going for much more)....

Still blows my mind that a company that's supposed to know what they're doing managed that.

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by JamesSGBrown » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:42 pm

Gumtree is good for finding ‘Squire’ s for cheap. In fact it’s the only place I find bargains semi regularly

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by simonhpieman » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:49 pm

Good shout, unlike eBay which corrects commonly mis-spelled words and names, Gumtree will only search for the exact characters you enter.

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by simonhpieman » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:29 am

So c'mon, how did this turn out?!

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by dren68 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:29 am

simonhpieman wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:29 am
So c'mon, how did this turn out?!
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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:27 am

On the "bargins in pawn shop" comment. I've noticed since reverb came in, most pawn shops go by reverb prices, which usually tend to be a bit more optimistic because rather than being sold by professional shops or people who actually know what the gear is and have maintained it/kept it in good condition, pawn shops take it as is. I've mentioned this story on osg before but i like to give examples. I like jagmasters. One came up for sale last year in a cash converters near mine. It was a sunburst standard. So not the cream of the crop and the most common colour. They had it priced as if it was a vista (£350) and it was quite beat up. So i called the staff over and explained "your reserch guy has gotten the vista series mixed up with the standard series. The vista series had better pickups/electronics, was built to a higher standard. Plus a few other things. The standards usually go for closer to £120-140 in this condition" and got told "leave the store, people will pay what we tell them to pay for it"
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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by spingo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:27 pm

simonhpieman wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:29 am
So c'mon, how did this turn out?!
Handed the guitar off to the lovely Chris at Fender and was handsomely rewarded by the lovely Jarmans for my efforts, and it's presumably en route to Ryan as we speak! I'm super happy with the whole thing.

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by Fiddy » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:40 pm

Well, what guitar did you get? Why keep it a secret?

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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by timtam » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:50 pm

And did anyone explain how it could have ended up in a pawn shop ?
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Re: Offset detectives, did I find a prototype Ryan Jarman Signature Model at the pawn shop?

Post by spingo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:02 pm

tribi9 wrote:
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Well, what guitar did you get? Why keep it a secret?
I didn't get anything yet! I'm more of an inept junkhacker type than an owner of fine instruments, so I'm gonna get something later. Maybe a mutated Strat Mini with 4 pickups or something, I don't know yet.

The green guitar wasn't to spec (Chris noticed there was no forearm contour, for instance), so it was marked for disposal and then kind of fell through the cracks.

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