Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Discussion of newer designs, copies and reissue offset-waist instruments.
Post Reply
User avatar
601210
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1021
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:55 am

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by 601210 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:50 am

That last one isn't so bad honestly, looks kinda cyberpunk.

$11,500 is kind of having a laugh and "antiqued finish" sounds suspiciously like tru-oil to me.

User avatar
higgsblossom
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1066
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:55 am
Location: Mannheim, Germany

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by higgsblossom » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:05 am

We built a guitar with intentionally crappy features cause mojo!
There is a screw missing in the trem plate on one of the pictures. I guess it was a prototype and he now wants to sell it anyway.
"500€? That's the price of a J Mascis Jazzmaster!"

User avatar
oid
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 834
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:19 pm

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by oid » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:52 am

higgsblossom wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:05 am
There is a screw missing in the trem plate on one of the pictures. I guess it was a prototype and he now wants to sell it anyway.
It is the small time luthier retirement plan. Leave a few bits and pieces off of each instrument then sell them on ebay 3o years later, VINAGE, NOS, 2018 SHAGUAR PICKUP SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! $68.93!!!!!!
Logic gates based on billiard-ball computer designs have also been made to operate using live soldier crabs of the species Mictyris guinotae in place of the billiard balls.

User avatar
higgsblossom
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1066
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:55 am
Location: Mannheim, Germany

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by higgsblossom » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:20 am

30 years from now, people will be like "What's ebay?" ;)
"500€? That's the price of a J Mascis Jazzmaster!"

User avatar
sirspens
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 786
Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:26 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by sirspens » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:26 pm

This guitar is neither an offset or handmade, but the "maker" claims both, so I am going to make fun of it. Originally I was going to add a disclaimer that I'm not better than this person, but then I saw a trove of Ayn Rand books on the bookshelf. So, I am a better person than whoever this is.

Image

Make: N/A
Model: "Jaguar copy"
Price: $1,000 + Free Shipping
Body Material: "Not quite sure what kind of wood it is either but it is extremely light."
Scale: 24"
Tremolo: Floating
Is the lower waist anywhere near the bridge: It's not an offset.
Good / Ridiculous / Lame: Okay, let's break down what this guy is selling.

"this is the underground band's guitarist's guitar."

I've been watching this guitar for a couple of weeks, saving it for a slow time. In that time, the price has INCREASED by $200. And, as we go through what this is, that will become increasingly ridiculous.

Here's what I gather from the information provided: Francis had a non-Fender Stratocaster copy. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume a cheap copy, based on the fact that he was willing to destroy it and that the wood is "extremely light", so most likely basswood. He hacked off the two bouts to somewhat resemble (read: not at all resemble) a Jaguar. I am guessing that his finish wasn't much to be desired because he then chose to cover it with (HIS WORDS) "acrylic paint using a Jackson Pollack splatter technique." He threw craft store acrylic paint at it? I guess at least it wasn't tempera paint. The pickguard is a hacked up piece of tort, originally from Warmoth, that looks like it was shaped with a wood chisel.

If I'm seeing the angle correctly here, the TOM bridge is installed at the opposite angle to what is correct, and then all the saddles are all the way to the back, which is not the direction they would need to go in to compensate for the incorrect angle of installation. Looking at the body, the bridge seems to be installed about where a Stratocaster bridge would be. But it is a 24" scale neck.

Then, to top off this stunning masterpiece, the guy threw some decent electronics and hardware at it, as well as a Warmoth neck, which are without a doubt the only things on the guitar of any real value.

As I said, the guitar has been posted for almost 2 weeks (being reposted at some point along the way). The guy originally promised a demonstration video, but that hasn't materialized.

Francis, if you happen to be reading this somehow, that guitar isn't worth $1000. Hopefully you learned a lot while working on it. But what you learned while working on this guitar is about all it is worth. Also, Francis, I really want you to hear me on this: if you are older than 14, throw out the Ayn Rand.

Link:
https://reverb.com/item/13944333-fender ... jade-green

User avatar
601210
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 1021
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:55 am

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by 601210 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:55 am

I have this guitar listed at $1000 due to parts and labor,
I'm sorry to say this but your labor isn't worth $750.

He could probably rip out the pickups and the neck and get mayyyybe $300 for those, though, right?

User avatar
ThePearDream
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 2072
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:18 am
Location: Detroit
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by ThePearDream » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:57 am

sirspens wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:26 pm
... Also, Francis, I really want you to hear me on this: if you are older than 14, throw out the Ayn Rand.
:D :D :D
Doug
@dpcannafax

User avatar
Squirrel
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 593
Joined: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:55 am
Location: England

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by Squirrel » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:08 am

601210 wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:55 am
He could probably rip out the pickups and the neck and get mayyyybe $300 for those, though, right?
It's got a Warmoth neck too, which might be worth a few quid in the unlikely event that he hasn't fucked it up somehow.

User avatar
sirspens
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 786
Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:26 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by sirspens » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:35 am

Squirrel wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:08 am
601210 wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:55 am
He could probably rip out the pickups and the neck and get mayyyybe $300 for those, though, right?
It's got a Warmoth neck too, which might be worth a few quid in the unlikely event that he hasn't fucked it up somehow.
Yeah. Pretty sure he had to add new screw holes for the neck, if you look a the picture of the back, which will bring the price down.

I was trying to figure out last night how much money the good parts are worth. I came up with between $200 and $300.

User avatar
shadowplay
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 25930
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:30 am
Location: Glasgow. Scotland
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by shadowplay » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:38 am

^^^

'They'll laugh at you in Jackson' (Pollack sic :fp: )

D

btw I don't want to know what's in that tub thing.
Are you loathsome tonight?

User avatar
sirspens
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 786
Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:26 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by sirspens » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:45 am

shadowplay wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:38 am
btw I don't want to know what's in that tub thing.
Aquarium in a plastic tub. Nice. I'm guessing a turtle?

User avatar
shadowplay
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 25930
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:30 am
Location: Glasgow. Scotland
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by shadowplay » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:49 am

sirspens wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:45 am
shadowplay wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:38 am
btw I don't want to know what's in that tub thing.
Aquarium in a plastic tub. Nice. I'm guessing a turtle?
Ah I can add cruel idiot to his list of crimes then. Hopefully he's not given Mr Terrapin* a mortifying bird guano paint job like the guitar.

D

*one of those 'pets' that always seems to get the shitty end of the stick.
Are you loathsome tonight?

blackbox
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 376
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:14 pm

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by blackbox » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:07 am

I mean, if it were just The Fountainhead, it wouldn't be much of an issue. But pretty sure those are some of her "philosophy" books on that shelf also. Which means either the person hates Rand and has the books because he's doing opposition academic research. Or...

User avatar
shadowplay
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 25930
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:30 am
Location: Glasgow. Scotland
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by shadowplay » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:50 am

blackbox wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:07 am
I mean, if it were just The Fountainhead, it wouldn't be much of an issue. But pretty sure those are some of her "philosophy" books on that shelf also. Which means either the person hates Rand and has the books because he's doing opposition academic research. Or...
...they are reading it aloud to a terrapin in a plastic tub as some awful science experiment.

D
Are you loathsome tonight?

User avatar
sirspens
PAT. # 2.972.923
PAT. # 2.972.923
Posts: 786
Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:26 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Contact:

Re: Handmade / Custom Offset Guitars on Reverb

Post by sirspens » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:27 am

blackbox wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:07 am
But pretty sure those are some of her "philosophy" books on that shelf also...
Yes. Yes they are. The Fountainhead caught my attention. Then I started looking closer.

There's also a lot of young adult fiction. That makes me feel either a little better or a lot worse. At least I don't see a copy of 50 Shades of Grey, but maybe that stays in the nightstand.

Post Reply