60s lacquer vs American pro

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by Futuron » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:52 pm

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I wouldn’t go as far as to say everyone has it. It’s only on a few models and just came out
I’d say the Mystic Seafoam model is still pretty niche.

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AP Jazzmaster, and AP Telecaster. That is it. No wonder nearly everyone buying the Jazzmaster is getting the mystic seafoam finish, you don't have many other ways to get that wonderful colour. Unlike sonic grey, which is available on every AP model except the Precision bass (8 not including fretboard variations).

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by daysleeperjeff » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:18 pm

Futuron wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:52 pm
daysleeperjeff wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:41 am
I wouldn’t go as far as to say everyone has it. It’s only on a few models and just came out
I’d say the Mystic Seafoam model is still pretty niche.

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AP Jazzmaster, and AP Telecaster. That is it. No wonder nearly everyone buying the Jazzmaster is getting the mystic seafoam finish, you don't have many other ways to get that wonderful colour. Unlike sonic grey, which is available on every AP model except the Precision bass (8 not including fretboard variations).
I’m surprised it’s just on those 2. That color would look incredible on anything.

I’ve actually felt like more people than I thought opt for the other colors but that’s probably just what I’m reading/seeing.

I think the CAR, Silverburst and Pine finishes all look amazing in the AP series. Great guitars...I love this line!

My AP Jazzmaster sounds incredible on the new album I’m working on! Game changer for me.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by Larsongs » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:54 pm

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I have nothing against an unconventional. Jazzmaster. I do have something against Strings slipping off the neck while playing though. Why would anyone want a Guitar that does that? If you get an Am Pro the 2018's are hopefully better Guitars without issues.

The Lacquer 60's, other than lack of color choices, is an excellent Guitar out of the box.
I'm also not a Fan of the off center 3 way Switch placement.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by daysleeperjeff » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:35 am

The Am Pro is a phenomenal guitar right out of the box. Of course, nobody wants strings too close to the fretboard edges, it’s a flaw in some of them that, it seems, has been corrected, but that issue is not unique to the American Professional series. It has been also seen in the Johnny Marr Jags and TVL signature Jazzmasters as well as others. It’s not really fair to hold it just to this series...it’s a Fender problem.

So if you get one just make sure it doesn’t have that issue or swap the bridge with a Mastery or Staytrem like so many do anyway.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by Larsongs » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:30 am

daysleeperjeff wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:35 am
The Am Pro is a phenomenal guitar right out of the box. Of course, nobody wants strings too close to the fretboard edges, it’s a flaw in some of them that, it seems, has been corrected, but that issue is not unique to the American Professional series. It has been also seen in the Johnny Marr Jags and TVL signature Jazzmasters as well as others. It’s not really fair to hold it just to this series...it’s a Fender problem.

So if you get one just make sure it doesn’t have that issue or swap the bridge with a Mastery or Staytrem like so many do anyway.
Good reasons to avoid the Johnny Marr, TVL as well as the others with the same flaws. Phenomenal out of the box shouldn't need a several hundred dollar repair. There are too many good Guitars that need nothing. Like a Lacquer 60's for way less $$$$$.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by DesmondWafers » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:40 am

...Except that the stock jag/jm bridge absolutely is a problem for 99% of guitarists and necessitates a bridge swap.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by Beyer160 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:49 am

DesmondWafers wrote:
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...Except that the stock jag/jm bridge absolutely is a problem for 99% of guitarists and necessitates a bridge swap.
I think that's a pretty big exaggeration.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by Beyer160 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:55 am

Beyer160 wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:49 am
DesmondWafers wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:40 am
...Except that the stock jag/jm bridge absolutely is a problem for 99% of guitarists and necessitates a bridge swap.
I think that's a pretty big exaggeration.
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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by DesmondWafers » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:55 am

I don't. You could make the argument that there are plenty of people on OSG who like the stock bridge, but there's a reason jazzmasters (and to a lesser extent jags) exploded in popularity right around the same time as the replacement bridge industry came around. The stock bridge is one of the biggest reasons that these guitars were ignored for decades by the masses.

As to the poll, we'll see what OSG says, but that question has already been answered with the hundreds of pages of bridge discussion threads. Even then, you're at an offset forum, we don't represent the average guitarist.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by Larsongs » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:01 am

I changed Bridges on my J Masicis JM, AV65 JM & AV65 Jag because of this Forum. Only to find out it was unnecessary if you really knew, or had someone who really knew, how to Set Up these types of Guitars. I now have all the Original Equipment back on all 3 Guitars. They function perfectly.

A great Guitar needs a good Set up & that should be it. Any more than that you gotta ask, Is it really a great Guitar? For me the answer would be No.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by daysleeperjeff » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:42 am

Larsongs wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:30 am
daysleeperjeff wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:35 am
The Am Pro is a phenomenal guitar right out of the box. Of course, nobody wants strings too close to the fretboard edges, it’s a flaw in some of them that, it seems, has been corrected, but that issue is not unique to the American Professional series. It has been also seen in the Johnny Marr Jags and TVL signature Jazzmasters as well as others. It’s not really fair to hold it just to this series...it’s a Fender problem.

So if you get one just make sure it doesn’t have that issue or swap the bridge with a Mastery or Staytrem like so many do anyway.
Good reasons to avoid the Johnny Marr, TVL as well as the others with the same flaws. Phenomenal out of the box shouldn't need a several hundred dollar repair. There are too many good Guitars that need nothing. Like a Lacquer 60's for way less $$$$$.
I say phenomenal because my model didn’t need anything out of the box. It’s great with the stock bridge and all. But I actually played it in store and made a decision to buy based on that.

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by Larsongs » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:36 pm

daysleeperjeff wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:42 am
Larsongs wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:30 am
daysleeperjeff wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:35 am
The Am Pro is a phenomenal guitar right out of the box. Of course, nobody wants strings too close to the fretboard edges, it’s a flaw in some of them that, it seems, has been corrected, but that issue is not unique to the American Professional series. It has been also seen in the Johnny Marr Jags and TVL signature Jazzmasters as well as others. It’s not really fair to hold it just to this series...it’s a Fender problem.

So if you get one just make sure it doesn’t have that issue or swap the bridge with a Mastery or Staytrem like so many do anyway.
Good reasons to avoid the Johnny Marr, TVL as well as the others with the same flaws. Phenomenal out of the box shouldn't need a several hundred dollar repair. There are too many good Guitars that need nothing. Like a Lacquer 60's for way less $$$$$.
I say phenomenal because my model didn’t need anything out of the box. It’s great with the stock bridge and all. But I actually played it in store and made a decision to buy based on that.
Likely the Strings off the Neck issue was addressed & Set Up were done by the Store. As it should be... Not Standard Operating Procedure anymore...unfortunately

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Re: 60s lacquer vs American pro

Post by daysleeperjeff » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:20 pm

Larsongs wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:36 pm
daysleeperjeff wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:42 am
Larsongs wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:30 am


Good reasons to avoid the Johnny Marr, TVL as well as the others with the same flaws. Phenomenal out of the box shouldn't need a several hundred dollar repair. There are too many good Guitars that need nothing. Like a Lacquer 60's for way less $$$$$.
I say phenomenal because my model didn’t need anything out of the box. It’s great with the stock bridge and all. But I actually played it in store and made a decision to buy based on that.
Likely the Strings off the Neck issue was addressed & Set Up were done by the Store. As it should be... Not Standard Operating Procedure anymore...unfortunately
Agreed! I played the exact model at Great House of Guitars in Rochester and the setup was so bad. But that place treats guitars like crap!

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