Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by Singlebladepickup » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:08 am

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Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:05 am
OK, let's play one more game! What if the pickguard was inlaid into the body? So visually a PG, but not an actual pickguard...
Two questions:
1- Where the faux-guard is the fancy wood (like picture below)?
2- Where the top is the fancy wood and the faux-guard is something more plain like holly or maple (reverse of picture below)?
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^I like this, and I'd probably be ok with it if the body were painted white or something. No wood inlay on a natural finished body. I'd still rather a real pickguard as opposed to an inlay, even if that pickguard were just wood (like an archtop).

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by The Dead Ranch Hands » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:16 am

I think to make it look good something else has to be going on visually. Like a nice German carve.

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by kimson » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:52 pm

The Dead Ranch Hands wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:16 am
I think to make it look good something else has to be going on visually. Like a nice German carve.
Agreed. I think this Jr.-type offset by Vuorensaku looks good: https://www.instagram.com/p/BYbdJ_BDX0-/

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by Maggieo » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:38 pm

I think one of the charms of Fender and Bilt offsets are the chrome and the pickguards. So, I'm in the no camp for offsets without pickguards.
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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by Maggieo » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:39 pm

kimson wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:52 pm
The Dead Ranch Hands wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:16 am
I think to make it look good something else has to be going on visually. Like a nice German carve.
Agreed. I think this Jr.-type offset by Vuorensaku looks good: https://www.instagram.com/p/BYbdJ_BDX0-/
You know, I still think they'd look better with some kind of pickguard.
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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by mackerelmint » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:26 pm

It really helps to have the added bit of visual interest. I really like split pickguards, like the Jet king 2 or Warmoth's option.
This is an excellent rectangle

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by Singlebladepickup » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:41 pm

mackerelmint wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:26 pm
It really helps to have the added bit of visual interest. I really like split pickguards, like the Jet king 2 or Warmoth's option.
mmm I hate the split pickguards. different strokes.

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by kimson » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:41 am

mackerelmint wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:26 pm
It really helps to have the added bit of visual interest. I really like split pickguards, like the Jet king 2 or Warmoth's option.
Yeah, gotta love the JTK2 - I just got another one for a project build. The Warmoth split pg is almost nice, but I think it's just a tad too pointy and metal-y.

(Sorry for the OT.)

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by verhoevenc » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:03 am

Interesting. So the reason I'm asking is I do the double-dye stabilizing in my shop to make that crazy multi-color burl wood. I'd love to put it on some offsets (my favorite design aesthetic) but it seems such a shame to cover up so much of the stabilized-burl-real-estate I spent so much time and effort creating.
The reason I thought about inlaid pickguards is because I could delicately cut out the pickguard shape and separate it from the "top." This, with a 1/16" wide purfling line, to make up the cut's kerf, could then make one burl-topped guitar with a plain wood pickguard as well as one plain wood guitar with a matching burl inlaid pickguard; no waste but still a "pickguard-like" aesthetic.
Sadly it seems this isn't something offsetters besides myself like :D
More examples:
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Note: I'm not as huge on this one... I think wood-against-wood inlay should always have some kind of visual separator... makes for s crisper look IMO. Doesn't have to be a full b/w/b 1/16" purfling, but at least a .010" black or white line.
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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:13 am

The only one ive ever liked the look of was the one that one of the guitar players in built to spill uses
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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by Fiddy » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:07 pm

verhoevenc wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:03 am
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That would look really cool as a Fender Mustang but with no stripey wood. Maybe some swamp ash.... :whistle:

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by Maggieo » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:41 pm

tribi9 wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:07 pm
verhoevenc wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:03 am
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That would look really cool as a Fender Mustang but with no stripey wood. Maybe some swamp ash.... :whistle:
Seconded!
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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by verhoevenc » Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:53 pm

And still include the chrome guard section!
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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by fuzzjunkie » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:09 pm

tribi9 wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:07 pm
verhoevenc wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:03 am
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That would look really cool as a Fender Mustang but with no stripey wood. Maybe some swamp ash.... :whistle:
It looks like a really nice 3-D program render that someone forgot to add an edge to. Doesn't quite look real.

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Re: Pickguardless Offsets: Opinions?

Post by Ohioisonfire » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:24 pm

A lot of the problem I have personally with pickguardless offsets has more to do with poor execution/combining it with other odd features and design aspects. A good example would be that flame top jazz-master thing that fender did. I quite like your idea of the inlaid pickguard though.

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