Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

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Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by goostah » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:16 pm

Dear All

I have no justification for buying a 2nd a Jaguar other than I love the look of surf green. My current Jag is CAR built to 65 specs (with a series mod). I only play at home and like learning different styles so I am not chasing tones or looking to fit into a genre of music. I have a bunch of other guitars (single coils, P90s, humbuckers etc and hollow, semi, solid etc) that cover all the tonal territory I need.

Anyone have suggestions for speccing out a 2nd Jaguar that is night and day different to my 65 spec'd guitar? I am thinking of building a Johnny Marr guitar but as I am not a Jaguar die hard I'm not sure it's enough difference to a 65 spec'd Jaguar.

Consider this thread a clean slate - it would be interesting to hear your non traditional ideas for a 2nd Jaguar.

Many thanks

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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by Embenny » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:37 pm

Your current guitar would have a 7.25" radius, so you could go for 9.5". It's got two vintage single coils, and a vintage vibrato. So how about some humbuckers or P90's and a hardtail? It's got a nitro finish, so how about poly? It's got a rhythm circuit and strangle switch, so how about a stripped-down 3-way switch and nothing else?

You asked for completely different, so here it is, and it just so happens that they're available super cheap on the used market:

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Those are the Blacktop Jag HH and 90. I stuck TV Classics and a B5 in one and then it really fit the description of "different".

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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by goostah » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:45 pm

mbene085 wrote:
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Your current guitar would have a 7.25" radius, so you could go for 9.5". It's got two vintage single coils, and a vintage vibrato. So how about some humbuckers or P90's and a hardtail? It's got a nitro finish, so how about poly? It's got a rhythm circuit and strangle switch, so how about a stripped-down 3-way switch and nothing else?

You asked for completely different, so here it is, and it just so happens that they're available super cheap on the used market:

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Those are the Blacktop Jag HH and 90. I stuck TV Classics and a B5 in one and then it really fit the description of "different".

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Thanks mbene, some good ideas here. Excluding my Gretsch guitars I only have one humbucker guitar. In fact I just stumbled upon this in another thread which looks really appealing (possibly from the same range as the one you posted):

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If there's no huge variety in the Jaguar claw pickup category (bear in mind I don't have the greatest ears to detect subtle nuances in tone so huge is relative here) then something like this is a great option. Dynasonics have also crossed my mind as a possible option - I have never played them but understand they sit between tele single coils and P90s.

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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by timtam » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:01 pm

Classic Player HH jag with the non-standard switching that gives both single coil and HB tones ?

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric- ... 14171.html
"I just knew I wanted to make a sound that was the complete opposite of a Les Paul, and that’s pretty much a Jaguar." Rowland S. Howard.

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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by Embenny » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:05 pm

goostah wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:45 pm
Thanks mbene, some good ideas here. Excluding my Gretsch guitars I only have one humbucker guitar. In fact I just stumbled upon this in another thread which looks really appealing (possibly from the same range as the one you posted):

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If there's no huge variety in the Jaguar claw pickup category (bear in mind I don't have the greatest ears to detect subtle nuances in tone so huge is relative here) then something like this is a great option. Dynasonics have also crossed my mind as a possible option - I have never played them but understand they sit between tele single coils and P90s.
That's an MIJ Jaguar Special HH. They were available in North America only as black-on-black, but they are occasionally available from Japanese sources in various other colour combinations.

I actually sold my Blacktop and bought one of those MIJs (well, traded a JM for it). They're great guitars but since they have the traditional electronics and 7.25" radius, they wouldn't be "as" different as your current Jag.

I have an extreme fondness for Dynasonics and really want to put some T-Armonds in one of my guitars someday.

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As for claw-compatible pickups, beyond the usual vintage, overwound, magnet variations, etc., there are a couple of differently-constructed options. I have Vintage Vibe JG90's in my MIJ, which are Jag-shaped P90's, though I'm actually about to swap those out after 10 years to change things up.

Curtis Novak has Jag-sized Lipsticks. That would sound totally different.

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And there are Creamery Sonic 60's, which are Burns Trisonics shrunk down to a slimmer profile.

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Jags are my main guitars, and I have spent years playing around with weird pickups in them. You'll be able to put together something very different-sounding from your AV65 with a little effort...just gotta figure out which direction to go! Hard to imagine pickups that sound more different than PAFs, filtertrons, dynasonics, lipsticks, P-90's and tri-sonics...and that's before you realize that you have even more options like Lace Sensors, Alumitones, and even active EMG singlecoils.
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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by goostah » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:56 pm

Thanks for all the info mbene.

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Post by frelonvert » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:31 am

They made a blacktop jaguar in seafoam green with block and biddings that was really cool !
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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by Larsongs » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:02 am

Something really different? How about a Thinline Jaguar?

https://youtu.be/rgDvXHf2AfM

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Post by hikikomori » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:01 am

how about this?

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Post by frelonvert » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:28 am

The jaguarillo was also cool:
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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by Larsongs » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:12 am

A Bass VI

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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by astro » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:30 pm

If you can live with a strat jack, these are really cool:

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Re: Looking for A 2nd Jaguar - What to Consider?

Post by King Volcano » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:36 pm

astro wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:30 pm
If you can live with a strat jack, these are really cool:

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I had one of those. Really liked it... Not a Jaguar, but I think these are such a deal and perfect for modding:

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