Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by Insomnicide » Sun May 21, 2017 7:41 am

Great work so far, I just wanted to say that CFM will be a fantastic finish, as it inspired me to build this:

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I look forward to seeing more!

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by Despot » Tue May 23, 2017 1:39 am

Those look exactly like the frets on my B&B '67 Jaguar - they don't interrupt the binding and they're wide/flat. I'd say they're original, without doubt.

Also ... re profile ... I'm not sure how Jaguar necks compare to Jazzmaster, but I've had both D&B and B&B from the mid '60s and they do tend to have a little more of a shoulder than unbound necks. Great neck profiles though - my Jaguar's neck is on the thick side, but feels fantastic. Compared to the other Jag (a L series '64) they're quite different - the L series is more of a round C, very similar to my late '62 Jazzmaster (and every '63 Strat, Jazzmaster I've tried) ... it's my favourite Fender profile ... whereas the B&B has a shoulder and more of a D feel than an oval C.

Great guitar OP - I look forward to following this thread. You're bang on the money with CFM too - that's going to look amazing!

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by tammyw » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:32 am

Wow, that is some serious work, I could never attempt a restoration like this.
will wrote:The aluminum shield is stamped with the name of the company that made the aluminum sheet - "Alcoa."
The letters look more like it said ALCLAD 2024, where they put a thin layer of pure aluminium cladding over the 2024 alloy to prevent corrosion. Of course that was still a trademark of Alcoa at the time, probably.
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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by theworkoffire » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:42 pm

Thanks all :)

Minor update - I've spent a bit of time restoring the contours and grain & ding-filling with thixotropic filler, and this is it after a quick sealer coat this evening before I start on the primer:

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by Yeatzee » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:27 pm

Going to look great in cfm

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Post by theworkoffire » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:31 pm

Some progress to report on this JM restoration.

In lieu of getting the previous links working again, this is how this arrived:

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This terrible photo seems to be the only one I have to hand, but this is the body now, just about cured and ready for polishing out. The colour is a near 50/50 mix of charcoal frost and pelham blue - like a nice faded pewter.

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I cut some tiny circles from an old WD cellulose guard:

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After an initial polish...I've since spot-filled the edges to get rid of the white lines. There's still some pitting around the edges of the old holes that will have to stay - I wanted to do what I could without removing any of the old guard, and without treating the surface too aggressively.

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by kosmonautmayhem » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:28 pm

very nice! i love a good a tort repair!

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Post by clef051 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:33 pm

this looks great, I wish i caught this thread before photobucket stopped letting people share their photos

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Post by theworkoffire » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:54 am

Original pics now restored :)

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Post by daCod » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:28 am

rad. so rad. well done. nice work. any more updates?
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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by rexter » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:18 pm

Excellent... Have been dying to see an update on this one Ben!

That colour should look lovely with that amazing tort guard.

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by theworkoffire » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:46 am

I've eventually managed to get this JM back together 8) .

I decided to keep the frets and just tidy them up a bit - I thought they were too scrappy and wide to be the originals, but was persuaded that they possibly were, and apart from a few uneven ends there's nothing wrong with them.

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Pushing the bridge cups in with a hot soldering iron - I had to do the last mm with my drill press, but this made sure the finish didn't crack as they went in:
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I'd masked off the only body marking, and put a stealth layer of shielding paint under the finish in the cavities to supplement the brass when it goes together:
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I added a cable-tie to the collet, held on with a dab of superglue to future-proof it as much as possible without fuss:
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Shielding back in. I had to use two soledring irons at once to heat the joints enough - not the neatest soldering in the world, unfortunately, but it works:
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I decided I had to widen the holes in the guard just enough for it to sit back down properly.:
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The original rhythm bracket had been cut to accept a larger replacement pot; I managed to replace it with a vintage original:
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Pickup markings: LM 12-30-65 - anyone know who LM was?
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I replaced the jack back to the correct type, but drew the line at trying to source a vintage one:
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New rhythm bracket in place:
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The pickups were a nightmare to get back in. Had to solder them in to the body, then squeeze the covers in from above, and then jam the pickups up into them from the underneath at an angle to push everything outwards as they went in. I was determined to do it without trimming the guard if I could:
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Hilda approves:
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Sort of...
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The repair has settled a bit since the refinish, and is just visible in the right light, as is the lower extra piece of the two-piece body, and the routing dowel in the back. A little frustrating, but inevitable, really, and standard for a vintage body. I didn't dare over-polish it for fear of going through the finish. Figured it was better left a little 'human' rather than having a super-perfect sheen that would jar with the vintage hardware:
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Oh...sounds and plays like an absolute dream. I've promised myself I won't fall in love with it - I only ever wanted it as a restoration project - but my god...

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by rexter » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:44 am

Been waiting to see this come to fruition and of course you nailed it...
Wish I was still in London for a chance of seeing it!

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by PJazzmaster » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:07 am

really nice to see the finished project! Congrats! So does it spielt wie Butter?

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Re: Holy purple 65 JM der wie Butter spielt

Post by theworkoffire » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:50 pm

PJazzmaster wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:07 am
really nice to see the finished project! Congrats! So does it spielt wie Butter?
Natürlich!

Now unfortunately for sale :'(

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