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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by Orang Goreng » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:18 am

I've been giving this some thought lately, as I noticed my repro green pickguard has, after about 15 years aging, reached a colour that in no way resembles a vintage guard anymore. I think there is a problem with fake aging.. when an aged finish starts aging by itself, it may turn to something way too dark. I'm expecting those tinted amber finished necks to turn poo brown by themselves in a decade or so.
So I guess I'm in the "no tinted lacquer" camp.
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by fuzzking » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:43 am

The way to do it is to dye the wood, because the coloration over the years is not only taking place in the nitro.
I've seen some necks done by good luthiers who first dye the neck itself and they are so much closer to a vintage neck
than, let's say, the re-issues. I think staining the wood some and then only minimally tinting the nitro will look much better in
the first place and will be less prone to have a superartificial look over time.
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by sookwinder » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:28 am

Doug, given the results of the 66 foam green jag I finished a couple on months back, I would go for clear....  however as well as totally agreeing with the Doc, I think normal clear will look great (as mine does) on the old/cured neck wood....  40 year old wood looks great, not pale like modern/young woods....
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by fullerplast » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:36 am

I agree completely on the neck. I always stain them with "colonial maple" and then use regular clear nitro.

But I was referring to the body here, though the same principle may apply as for artificial yellow. The sun (or a UV lamp) over regular clear is probably a better idea.

Still kicking this around.

At any rate, I may be able to shoot the first coats of non-tinted clear tomorrow...    :?
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by fuzzking » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:40 am

Have fun with the clear... You can always take it slow and see how you like this result first.

...can't wait to clearcoat my orange body, too.

BTW: I had a clear nitro neck under an old tanning bed (thus UV heavy) for more than 20 hrs. with no visible result yet  :-[
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by painted wood » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:57 pm

You may want to use DEFT clear nitro cans because it doesn't yellow.  Sandwich a mist coat or two of tinted clear in between multiple Deft clear coats and the finish basically will not yellow anymore.
I learned this from the reranch and it seems like it would give you what you desire.

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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by Stratelejazzuar » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:38 pm

StevenO wrote: I like both.

No matter which you go for, it'll look good. Take your time with it. Don't rush into anything.
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by djetz » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:36 am

djetz wrote: My vote is "no yellow" as well.
...and it ended up looking like an egg yolk.  :'(
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by Stereordinary » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:46 am

Orang Goreng wrote: I've been giving this some thought lately, as I noticed my repro green pickguard has, after about 15 years aging, reached a colour that in no way resembles a vintage guard anymore. I think there is a problem with fake aging.. when an aged finish starts aging by itself, it may turn to something way too dark. I'm expecting those tinted amber finished necks to turn poo brown by themselves in a decade or so.
So I guess I'm in the "no tinted lacquer" camp.
This is very interesting to me and I had a pretty good feeling that this was the news everyone was going to be talking about in a decade.  If I wanted to do a vintage tinit on a neck or body, I would do what Frank Ford does and leave a jar of lacquer on my rooftop until it turns just the right shade of amber. 
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by Orang Goreng » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:45 am

This is what I mean, Paul... see how under the knob skirts and bridge area it's still more or less mint green, like it was when I got it new, while the exposed areas have turned into a orange-like parchment tone. White sheet of paper for reference.
I'm a heavy smoker, so I thought the darker colour was just  tar that would wash off, but no, it doesn't.

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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by sookwinder » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:51 am

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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by Orang Goreng » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:57 am

;D. Number three, sort of.... ;)
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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by mynameisjonas » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:52 am

Orang Goreng wrote: This is what I mean, Paul... see how under the knob skirts and bridge area it's still more or less mint green, like it was when I got it new, while the exposed areas have turned into a orange-like parchment tone. White sheet of paper for reference.
I'm a heavy smoker, so I thought the darker colour was just  tar that would wash off, but no, it doesn't.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l194/ ... dguard.jpg

the AVRI mint guard chrisjedijane gave me (for free) for my charcoal frost project has gone through a similar transformation, the exposed areas have gone lighter and less green compared to under the knob skirts and the bridge.

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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by vegasrock » Sun May 04, 2008 7:56 pm

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Re: Shell Pink with Tinted Nitro

Post by sookwinder » Sun May 04, 2008 11:28 pm

vegasrock wrote:i had a daphne blue jazz bass that i had sitting by a window for 8 months and it just showed a hint of yellowing.
I have a 2001 CS strat in daphne Blue and I have just noticed that the nitro clear coat on the backside and lower edge are turning yellow (like that blue tele).  The bottom edge and backside are the two sides that see more sun (light) than the rest of the finish as they sit in the guitar stands. The room itself only gets direct sun light for 20 minutes in the early morning.
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