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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by Soiouz » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:32 am

eupat wrote: "sealer" (je connait pas le terme français)

Je crois que le terme est "scellant" ou "apprêt-scellant".

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by renaud » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:23 am

Do you think it's enough before painting?

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by lastlol » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:30 am

Perso comme fondur j'utilise du fondur cellulosique en aerosol Spruh Konig que l'on peut trouver en France ici : http://www.hmdiffusion.com/aoCCatalogue ... amille=131
Il est cher mais c'est de la super qualité, vraiment.

Pour le vernis nitro en aérosol, le Spruh Konig est aussi très bien, mais c'est du satiné, donc faut le polir. Sur un manche, ça marche, une fois sec il est satiné, puis devient parfaitement brillant après polissage. Pour un corps, pas encore essayé... Mais pas de raisons pour que ça fonctionne pas. Il durcit également très très bien et rapidement, contrairement à d'autres qui restent mou si jamais on se loupe un peu dans le séchage !
J'ai aussi essayé le vernis nitro de chez Produits d'Antan, mais il sèche moins vite et a rapidement craquelé (quelques mois), alors que le Spruh Konig tient vachement bien.

Pour la sous-couche et la couleur, les aérosols Motip sont très bien (on les trouve chez Feu Vert) avec de belles couleurs métallisées, et pas de souci de séchage (peinture qui frise, etc.). Je crois que ce sont des peintures nitro-acryliques.

Je suis en train de revernir ma Baritone VI (Bass VI avec pièces USA Custom Guitars) en Sage Green Metallic avec tête assortie, et pour l'instant ça se passe super bien avec ces produits !
Fetchez la vache !

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by the older brother » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:46 am

Jag fattar inte nåt!  ;)
Someone knows where I can find the nearest woodchipper to throw my pieces of junk into?

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by renaud » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:47 am

thanks for the link!!!  ;)

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by renaud » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:50 am

Should the body be as a "mirror" before painting?

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by renaud » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:57 am

the older brother wrote: Jag fattar inte nåt!  ;)
ledsen  ;)

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by lastlol » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:39 am

Sorry for the extensive use of French in my thread, but this way it was easier for me to give renaud tips about lacquer cans you can find in France and the experience I had with them !
Fetchez la vache !

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by Jazzprod » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:44 pm

the older brother wrote: Jag fattar inte nåt!  ;)
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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by mcjt » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:18 pm

lastlol wrote: Sorry for the extensive use of French in my thread, but this way it was easier for me to give renaud tips about lacquer cans you can find in France and the experience I had with them !
Fetchez la vache !
"Fetchez la vache !"
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c'est un cadeau! What? Un cadeau! What? it's a gift! Ohhh.

c'est bien, un peu de français sur le OSG....
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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by lharville » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:56 pm

looking good man

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by renaud » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:15 am

thx  ;)

i'm in the final painting phase now.
Things don't go as i'd like.  :'(
Small pin holes appeared on some areas.

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by painted wood » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:55 am

I know you are past this phase and I'm late to the thread, but I lightly sand my sealer coat with 400 grit until it is completely mirror smooth, then spray primer and a day later I lightly sand my primer with 600 grit until it is mirror smooth.  After each phase I wipe the body clean with naptha on a paper towel, to remove all contamination and/or dust.  Then I spray my paint, let it dry for a day, wipe clean with naptha, spray one can of clear, wait another day, wipe the body with naptha, and spray the second can of clear.

I only pass over an area/side one time, never multiple passes or this causes runs.  I spray one pass on the sides, wait a couple minutes, the front, wait a couple minutes 10 seconds, the back, wait a couple minutes 10 seconds and repeat.

I think the pinholes are due to you spraying too wet of a coat and air getting trapped under the paint and trying to escape.  I assume you are spraying multiple passes at one time.

I would wait a few days and then lightly sand back your color coat with 600 or 400 grit and get the surface nice and smooth and shiny dull and perfectly flat (reprepped) and then proceed with the color again.

Your passes should be kinda wet, but keep the can moving at a steady pace, and never repass and area, ]until 5 minutes a minute or so has gone by, then apply the second pass over the entire body.  You only want enough color to completely cover the body.

I hope this helps.
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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by renaud » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:48 am

painted wood wrote: I know you are past this phase and I'm late to the thread, but I lightly sand my sealer coat with 400 grit until it is completely mirror smooth, then spray primer and a day later I lightly sand my primer with 600 grit until it is mirror smooth.  After each phase I wipe the body clean with naptha on a paper towel, to remove all contamination and/or dust.  Then I spray my paint, let it dry for a day, wipe clean with naptha, spray one can of clear, wait another day, wipe the body with naptha, and spray the second can of clear.

I only pass over an area/side one time, never multiple passes or this causes runs.  I spray one pass on the sides, wait a couple minutes, the front, wait a couple minutes, the back, wait a couple minutes and repeat.

I think the pinholes are due to you spraying too wet of a coat and air getting trapped under the paint and trying to escape.  I assume you are spraying multiple passes at one time.

I would wait a few days and then lightly sand back your color coat with 600 or 400 grit and get the surface nice and smooth and shiny (reprepped) and then proceed with the color again.

Your passes should be kinda wet, but keep the can moving at a steady pace, and never repass and area, until 5 minutes or so has gone by, then apply the second pass over the entire body.  You only want enough color to completely cover the body.

I hope this helps.
for sure it helps! thank u so much!  ;)
so let's do it again with the right method  ::)

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Re: 61 jazzmaster project!

Post by lharville » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:32 am

as far as the small pin holes, that's all right man, don't worry about it. I think that is really cool about making your own. Especially in the first few anyone makes, there are always going to be minor blems, but that kind of makes it your own and it'll help you make your future ones better. Can't wait to see it all finished

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