Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

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Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by debudavid » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:16 am

i just got this today and i quite like it. i must admit i that don't know much about it. it plays and looks great but needs some minor work.

it's branded 'Burns', but it doesn't look like the Japanese Burns guitars that you see usually. the 25.5" neck has a non-reverse firebird look to it and the body resembles a jaguar with elongated horns and simplified electronics. the bridge looks like a mosrite and the pickups are small but rather fat single coils. it has a teisco style truss rod aduster, a zero fret, and a fender style floating trem which is common to many late 60's japanese guitars. what i find unusual is that the trem is shaped like a jag/jm and has a lock on/off button. you mostly would see these floating trems with no trem lock or they would have a trem lock but the trem plate is differently shaped from a jag/jm. so for me, this guitar is a bit of a mystery.

if anyone has any more info on this guitar, please let me know.

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by mgeek » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:55 am

just thinking out loud really, but from this distance (can you do some closeups?) the pickups and hardware look quite Jansen like.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jansen-New-Ze ... 7675.l2557" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

bit of a thread here:

viewtopic.php?t=46376" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by debudavid » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:33 am

here are some close ups.

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by jackxiv » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:02 am

Man, I dig the hell out of this thing, good find! Where'd ya find it?
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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by vastrange » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:30 pm

haven't seen that guitar before but I love how it looks.
congrats! very cool!
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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by windmill » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:29 am

Its got a yamaha SG-2 shape about it.

Interesting 8)

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by debudavid » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:35 am

windmill wrote:Its got a yamaha SG-2 shape about it.
yeah, i'd noticed that too. i picked it up off yahoo auction.

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by jackxiv » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:48 am

Also, most Burns were made in England. You sure it is Japanese?
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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by mgeek » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:46 pm

jackxiv wrote:Also, most Burns were made in England. You sure it is Japanese?

Deffo nothing to do with the UK Burns company (or Jansen now I see the closeups)

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by debudavid » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:18 pm

it is stamped 'made in japan' on the neckplate. does anyone have one of those really expensive japanese books on bizarre guitars? it should be in there but i'm not prepared to fork out the $150 to $250 to buy one off ebay.

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by mgeek » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:06 am

Guess you've seen this already? http://drowninginguitars.com/2011/12/02 ... ic-guitar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just a bit of a history of the Japanese Burns brand

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by debudavid » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:31 am

i just noticed that the tuners look identical to those on that site. thanks for that!
i know that blog and i've looked at that guitar, but i missed the fact that there was a burns of tokyo.
they look like generic tuners from the 1980s such as on the guitar to the left, but the covers on the back of the burns' tuners are a little bit different.

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by mgeek » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:03 am

Those tuners were around before the 80s for sure.

I'd say yours fits in featurewise with the 67-69 dates mentioned on the blog, but I guess that still doesn't tell us who made it and what other names it was sold under...

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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by Decoboom » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:49 am

Nice snag!!
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Re: Late 1960's Japanese Burns Offset

Post by adamrobertt » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:04 pm

Awesome find!

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