Under the Hood of Pre-CBS Offsets... (Vintage Markings)

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Re: Under the Hood of Pre-CBS Offsets... (Vintage Markings)

Post by PJazzmaster » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:38 pm

'62 shielding, cannot rotate this picture at the moment. Could it stand for Lil(l)ian?
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Post by kosmonautmayhem » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:48 pm

Looks like another "Pilar" to me. ;)

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Post by PJazzmaster » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:12 pm

kosmonautmayhem wrote:Looks like another "Pilar" to me.
Oh, I didn't notice that we had "Pilar" before! Thanks!

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Post by PJazzmaster » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:17 pm

inside a '64 (wiring is not original):

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Post by PJazzmaster » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:19 pm

1964 Mell

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Post by terminalvertigo » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:58 pm

Mell sighting on my '66 mustang pickup.

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Post by sleepkid » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:22 pm

58/59 Jazzmaster (pots are 58, serial number is 59)

Looks like "Esper" was having an "E" only day:
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...and then a kind of mysterious simple "L R" in the neck pickup cavity (or something above the L?):

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The foam pads were broken in half, so no idea what's on the bottom of the pickups if anything.

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Post by murraymc62 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:52 am

Here is a 'EP' day from Esper. This is on the back of a 66 Mustang pickguard. Don't know what the 4 relates to, is this the month perhaps? The pick-up is from a different guitar, a 65 or 66. Anyone tell me what the 8 means? Is this a month or maybe the same as the 8 used on the neck code?
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Post by murraymc62 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:23 am

Sorry all, try this bigger image (just getting the hang of this image posting thing).
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Post by fullerplast » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:28 am

I've seen that 8 a lot on student models and always associated it with the short scale neck code (as you suggest). But recently I saw a post on TDPRI where a guy put a pic of his Tele neck up that had the written 8 on the bottom of the heel (between the bolt holes). He asked about it, and a couple more guys put up pics of theirs too with the 8. So I can only guess it's an employee number or something?
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Post by murraymc62 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:52 am

Thanks for the response. That makes sense. I have seen one with a 9 (which fitted the neck code theory) but then also a 14 (which didn't). Employee code may be the answer.

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Post by fullerplast » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:23 am

My '66 Tele has 13 written on the bottom of the bridgeplate. I wonder if they started using numbers instead of names/initials in the CBS era? Maybe the company got big enough where numbers made more sense? Who knows!
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Post by Surfgreen58 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:58 pm

"Mell", not Kelroy, "was here" on this 1964 Jazzmaster pick guard shield!

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Post by pilfa » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:07 am

Probably got a previous owner underneath my scratch plate!

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Post by thisisnickpaige » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:33 am

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