NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

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NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Kinx » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:18 am

Have you ever been drunk shopping for a guitar online and then didn't remember the purchase until the next day afternoon, when tracking messages started to appear in your phone? I did. That's how I got this guitar. I got it from Bucharest, Romania (of all places) and it finally arrived few days ago, '63 Eko 500-3V. I was pretty terified at first from the sole pic I've recieved, since it is obviously missing some frets, one bridge tuner and one saddle. But the price was still quite nice, so I went ahead with it.

ImageIMG_5035 by kinx001 kinx001, on Flickr

after closer inspecition, I was kinda relieved that everything else is in a pretty good shape. all the electronics are working, despite the fact there was some kind of active electronics mod under the pickguard years ago

ImageIMG_5047 by kinx001 kinx001, on Flickr

I was scared by the bridge, but gotoh tune o matic is a direct replacement - will go with that.

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I am pretty stoked to hear it play :) I am still looking for that single tuner though, does anyone have any idea where to get it?
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by mgeek » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:58 am

Hahah drunkbuying! Love it...done it with records a few times but not a guitar ;)

That tuner is a Van Ghent, used on quite a few European models at the time, email this guy, he usually has NOS sets and various odd ones

https://projectguitarparts.co.uk/Pages/ ... parts.html

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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Kinx » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:39 am

hey, thanks :) I just realized I know this website, he's listing NOS tuners just like this as a set - worst case scenario, I'll have to buy the set and then sell these after cleaning one by one. I would like to buy just a single one, since the rest seems to be working fine. I was originally thinking about replacement white tip Klusons, but it would be much cooler to keep these "rugby ball" Van Ghents in.

I am really stoked for the bridge tho. the gotoh tune o matic is a perfect fit and it matches the original bridge closely, even though the fretboard radius is a bit funny in the middle of the neck (amateur fret levelling I suppose?) . And of course the body is made of plywood ;D ;D ;D But I don't care about that, I've already had pleasant experiences with plywood bodied guitars before. Neck shape is super lovely too - a bit thinner profile than my '72 Jazzmaster neck, closer to a pre-cbs strat.
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by mgeek » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:02 am

Kinx wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:39 am
hey, thanks :) I just realized I know this website, he's listing NOS tuners just like this as a set - worst case scenario, I'll have to buy the set and then sell these after cleaning one by one. I would like to buy just a single one, since the rest seems to be working fine. I was originally thinking about replacement white tip Klusons, but it would be much cooler to keep these "rugby ball" Van Ghents in.
Email him, he does have various odd bits and pieces, he may well sell you one! He's the kind of guy who has drawers full
There's also https://www.guitarage.nl/

I did have a set of these kicking around a while back, they aren't too hard to find. Great tuners too, I think, despite looking kinda basic.
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by LVC » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:18 am

Another source for the tuners — note they have the whole set in both 3x3 and 6-in-line configurations. No affiliation.
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Sweetfinger » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:05 pm

They may be plywood, but it's that old, "don't make it like that anymore" plywood that is lighter and has a brighter sound when you tap it. I love old EKOs. I'm trying to figure out what the electronics were. It looks like a rotary switch up there.

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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Kinx » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:31 am

yep, the rotary switch engages the active circuit in and out - it works when switched out, but it looks like most of the active electronics is gone anyway. I want to preserve the original switching by safely disconnecting it and hooking the rotary (I'm getting a new one) to the pickups for more stage ready switching - everything as reversible as possible. The routing for the rotary is there anyway, so I want to use it.
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Kinx » Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:46 pm

I finally got it back. It's the surfiest thing ever !!!! bridge pickup is super thin, but based on demos I was able to dig up, it is probably supposed to be this way. It measures around 8.5k, so it isn't broken. Vibrato is crazy - it has much broader range than standard Jazzmaster unit.

I recorded a quick demo of it right after I got home, I'll do some proper recording tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/snELxyjq2qY
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by windmill » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:36 pm

Thanks

look forward to hearing more of this.

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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by mgeek » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:43 am

Kinx wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:46 pm
I finally got it back. It's the surfiest thing ever !!!! bridge pickup is super thin, but based on demos I was able to dig up, it is probably supposed to be this way. It measures around 8.5k, so it isn't broken. Vibrato is crazy - it has much broader range than standard Jazzmaster unit.
Woah that sounds great!

I've got a lot of time for thin, trebly sounds. Guitarists love to go on about warmth but when it comes to performances/recording/anything with other musicians playing too a thinner sound 9 times out of 10 works better.

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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Kinx » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:12 am

mgeek wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:43 am
Kinx wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:46 pm
I finally got it back. It's the surfiest thing ever !!!! bridge pickup is super thin, but based on demos I was able to dig up, it is probably supposed to be this way. It measures around 8.5k, so it isn't broken. Vibrato is crazy - it has much broader range than standard Jazzmaster unit.
Woah that sounds great!

I've got a lot of time for thin, trebly sounds. Guitarists love to go on about warmth but when it comes to performances/recording/anything with other musicians playing too a thinner sound 9 times out of 10 works better.
I agree, I really like my guitar sounds "focused" and not interfering with other instruments (unless I want them to :freako: ) - this is however pretty extreme, like even more extrem "strangle switch" on Jaguar.

I had no luck in finding wiring diagram for these, I would like to try it without all the passive electronics just for kicks, but I don't want to mess with it without the diagram.
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Kinx » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:49 am

I made a slightly better demo for the Eko - showcasing all pickup options. It's like a strat from hell now :)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FayCDq45kA
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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by windmill » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:56 pm

Thanks for posting this

It sounds like fun !

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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by surfin_bird » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:44 am

What a beauty, this is a drunken decision you shouldn't feel ashamed for. :?

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Re: NGD: '63 Eko 500-3V

Post by Kinx » Sat May 16, 2020 2:41 am

I just started a youtube channel with my buddy and the Eko featured in this thread is thoroughly reviewed in our first episode, check it out :) We deffinitely appreciate any kind of feedback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeElq7kWSH0
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