Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

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Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by Dieca » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:05 pm

Have recently acquired a 1964 Jaguar ;D ;D in almost completely original condition. I aim to make some upgrades to improve playability but nothing that is not reversible.

Original tuners are present and work fine but arent super smooth and I would obviously appreciate the higher gear ratio of a modern set

I've been comparing the kluson staggered post supremes and gotoh adjustable post SD91s, leaning towards the klusons as they have a higher gear ratio.

Gotohs: https://www.wdmusic.co.uk/hardware-part ... tyle-p2734

kluson supremes: https://www.wdmusic.co.uk/hardware-part ... sts-p13425

I also came across these which arent reproductions (not bothered too bothered by this, they will look pretty much the same from the front anyway)

https://www.wdmusic.co.uk/hardware-part ... cks-p13551

Anybody got any experience with the above, i'd be really interested if the kluson revolution outline is the same as the vintage tuners as the nitro is fairly faded around the tuners and much lighter underneath.

Thanks in advance for the offset wisdom

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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by greens » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:21 am

I'm curious about this as well.

Congrats on the NGD!

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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by Larry Mal » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:36 am

They should all work just fine- the Revolution tuners are my favorites at the moment.
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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by Dieca » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:43 am

I'm going to go for the revolutions and see if fit nicely into the existing wear marks on the headstock which it looks like they will. Never been a tremolo guy but im really loving the jag trem so have gone for the locking versions too, not had them before but sounds like they should help with tuning stability with the trem.

@greens ill let you know how i get on

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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by Larry Mal » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:57 am

I haven't replaced the tuners on an actual vintage offset, but I did replace the tuners on a MIJ Jazzmaster, and two AVRI Fenders, and a 1979 Lead 2, and some vintage Bullets (not all of which used that footprint).

In all cases the Kluson Revolutions were direct retrofits.

Also, be sure to use your original screws and not the replacement ones, and keep your original grommets in the headstock's face, save yourself trouble and reduce the possibility of tear out.

Get the locking ones and step into the 21st century! They are incredible.

What you will need with the Klusons, by the way, is their "no collar" model. Good luck!
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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by Jaguar018 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:17 am

Larry Mal wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:57 am
Get the locking ones and step into the 21st century! They are incredible.
Quit pushing your locking tuner agenda Larry. :P

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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by RIORIO » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:27 pm

I got the locking revolution tuners (thanks to Larry’s dilligent salesmanship 8) ) and must say I absolutely LOVE them. Rock solid tuners.

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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by zip73 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:34 pm

RIORIO wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:27 pm
I got the locking revolution tuners (thanks to Larry’s dilligent salesmanship 8) ) and must say I absolutely LOVE them. Rock solid tuners.
Had these in that white Fender Prodigy. Outstanding tuners.

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Re: Drop in replacement for vintage single line kluson tuners

Post by Dieca » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:00 am

Larry Mal wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:57 am

Also, be sure to use your original screws and not the replacement ones, and keep your original grommets in the headstock's face, save yourself trouble and reduce the possibility of tear out.
Don't worry, when I took the guitar apart to inspect it I made a little wooden jig with a place for every screw so they can go back in the right spot. 8)

Your locking tuner agenda is getting me quite excited to try them!

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