Got the guitar... New D&B Custom Color Jazzmaster incoming
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Got the guitar... New D&B Custom Color Jazzmaster incoming
Well... I pulled the trigger. First shot
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
The headstock decal is wrong for a 1965. A correct decal would be Gold Fender not black like the late 60's also a 65 would have the italicized scroll in front of Fender and after Jazzmaster. The neck date is correct. It's possible the neck was sent back to in late 60's for finish work on the neck and put that decal on when they refinished the neck.
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
Yes. Wrong decal.
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
If that's the body that goes with the guitar my guess is body and neck were stripped at the same time as the natural finish look started becoming popular late 60's early 70's.
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
Decal is correct. Notice the absence of the circle-R registered mark after the Fender script. They selectively started experimenting with this early black-logo + an all-gold version of it in late '65. Late '67+ black logos include the registered mark. Below is a FEB '66:
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
I stand corrected. I didn't know they were still doing dots and binding into 66 either.
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
There's lots of B&D guitars...blocks came in later in '66.marqueemoon wrote:I stand corrected. I didn't know they were still doing dots and binding into 66 either.
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
I have seen dots and binding jag necks as late at April 66
I used it on a partscaster build
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 29&t=36678
I used it on a partscaster build
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 29&t=36678
relaxing alternative to doing actual work ...
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
How much should I be paying for an all original 65 in Olympic white?
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
For me, that would depend on whether it's a pre-CBS dots only neck, CBS-era dots and binding neck, or a CVS-era inlays and binding neck. Each one would be progressively lower in value.kracdown wrote:How much should I be paying for an all original 65 in Olympic white?
For Olympic white, I think that would realistically top out around $7000 for 65. Maybe a hair more if it's in very nice shape and has case candy. I see a few sellers trying to get 10 K + for an Olympic white 65, but that is simply not realistic, in my opinion. Olympic white is a very common custom color, much like candy apple red.
I think The other examples should only go for around 5000-5500. Might be able to get more for dots and binding neck if it's in very good shape.
That's just my opinion. Of course, if I were shopping, I try to find them in the lower range. But if you want it, you'll have to pay market for it :-)
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
It's got binding and dots, a big neck (supposedly .91 at the nut), and is all original with the case. Asking less for it than most normal '66 guitars. I'm thinking I've got to try it...bencrit wrote:For me, that would depend on whether it's a pre-CBS dots only neck, CBS-era dots and binding neck, or a CVS-era inlays and binding neck. Each one would be progressively lower in value.kracdown wrote:How much should I be paying for an all original 65 in Olympic white?
For Olympic white, I think that would realistically top out around $7000 for 65. Maybe a hair more if it's in very nice shape and has case candy. I see a few sellers trying to get 10 K + for an Olympic white 65, but that is simply not realistic, in my opinion. Olympic white is a very common custom color, much like candy apple red.
I think The other examples should only go for around 5000-5500. Might be able to get more for dots and binding neck if it's in very good shape.
That's just my opinion. Of course, if I were shopping, I try to find them in the lower range. But if you want it, you'll have to pay market for it :-)
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65?
Ah - I knew I had heard about this before. You can see this cleaner guitar at Norms that also has the all black headstock logo. I dig it.zip73 wrote:Decal is correct. Notice the absence of the circle-R registered mark after the Fender script. They selectively started experimenting with this early black-logo + an all-gold version of it in late '65. Late '67+ black logos include the registered mark. Below is a FEB '66:
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65? - price check
That guitar has been sitting on SF CL for 4 or 5 months at least at $4500, so I imagine there's something up with it.
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65? - price check
I've been looking at it and talking to the guy who's willing to ship (its at $4,900, but I talked him down). I think that people either aren't down for the big neck or something...mcatano wrote:That guitar has been sitting on SF CL for 4 or 5 months at least at $4500, so I imagine there's something up with it.
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Re: Does this headstock look off for a '65? - price check
pulled the trigger....