NGD: 1964 Jaguar (Refin)
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Re: NGD: 1964 Jaguar (Refin)
Very nice indeed!!! And very similar to my '64:). Congrats - if it's anything like mine you're in for a treat.
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Good to hear that a coat of tinted lacquer could work. Food for thought.
The neck is a different shape/feel than the Thin Skin (not to mention the giant frets on the TS which I never liked). Very comfortable and feels "easy" to play. Inspiring, too, which is ultimately the reason we all muck around in dusty pawn shops and order $$ guitars unseen from dark corners of unknown music stores, right?
I'll give it a set up this weekend (at least change the strings and address the intonation, which is pretty off right now).
Thanks! I feel pretty fortunate about being able to pick it up. (Both the opportunity and having saved up enough in the rock fund to make it happen).Despot wrote:That's really nice cestlamort - great score!
Does it have that slightly full feeling neck? Sort of a well rounded C without being a boat neck? I've a '64 L series as well (also a refin - but nowhere near as pretty as yours!) - and the neck is perfect ... a nice full C shape. It's remarkably similar to the neck of my late '62 Jazzmaster (which is stamped Dec '62, so it could well be a '63). Nothing at all like the much skinnier '62 reissue necks.
The neck is a different shape/feel than the Thin Skin (not to mention the giant frets on the TS which I never liked). Very comfortable and feels "easy" to play. Inspiring, too, which is ultimately the reason we all muck around in dusty pawn shops and order $$ guitars unseen from dark corners of unknown music stores, right?
I'll give it a set up this weekend (at least change the strings and address the intonation, which is pretty off right now).
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Beautiful! I have a white refin '63 Jag still awaiting re-assembly, I am mortally afraid of the rewiring job which awaits me.
dc wrote:"out there the Snow Queen is kidnapping boys" -- s. kilbey
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Jon, if you want me to send you a complete set of 10x8" colour blow ups of the wiring required and an easily understood instruction sheet, promising to only mention "don't burn the paint with the soldering iron" every second paragraph .... I can...
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The problem isn't getting the instructions or even doing the wiring, it's when everything is all together in the right places with lovely neat solder joints and the bloody thing still doesn't work .. which has happened to me three times now with my main JM. Oh well, I guess I didn't need to hear the neck pickup anyway.
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At least with a jaguar you can wire stuff up on the guitar itself - I swore I'd never rewire a jazzmaster after similar failures and thousands of pickguard screws only to discover that I'd screwed up somewhere along the way.mezcalhead wrote:The problem isn't getting the instructions or even doing the wiring, it's when everything is all together in the right places with lovely neat solder joints and the bloody thing still doesn't work .. which has happened to me three times now with my main JM. Oh well, I guess I didn't need to hear the neck pickup anyway.
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except on a Jag who still have to fit the bridge & strings (with or without the guard) to truly work out whether the wiring is correct and sounds correct.
For me Leo just go a little bit too smart by half with all those earth leads connected to the brass plates/tubs.
The strat set up, is a much simpler way of doing it (one led needs to be connected to the trem unit claw).
Which means changing from one guard/pups to another guard/pups can take 10 minutes.
I am sure James will pipe up and tell me that the rick set up is even simpler ... but my response to that is "... but you're still just playing a rick ... "
For me Leo just go a little bit too smart by half with all those earth leads connected to the brass plates/tubs.
The strat set up, is a much simpler way of doing it (one led needs to be connected to the trem unit claw).
Which means changing from one guard/pups to another guard/pups can take 10 minutes.
I am sure James will pipe up and tell me that the rick set up is even simpler ... but my response to that is "... but you're still just playing a rick ... "
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Oh well played Geoff, she's a pale beauty.
And in smoke-filled rooms of electric sound
A legend is built around
The Snow Queen
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And in smoke-filled rooms of electric sound
A legend is built around
The Snow Queen
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Rics are dead simple. The other beauty of their easy-to-get-at wiring, is that when you put it back together, you then get to play a Ric!sookwinder wrote:except on a Jag who still have to fit the bridge & strings (with or without the guard) to truly work out whether the wiring is correct and sounds correct.
For me Leo just go a little bit too smart by half with all those earth leads connected to the brass plates/tubs.
The strat set up, is a much simpler way of doing it (one led needs to be connected to the trem unit claw).
Which means changing from one guard/pups to another guard/pups can take 10 minutes.
I am sure James will pipe up and tell me that the rick set up is even simpler ... but my response to that is "... but you're still just playing a rick ... "
Geoff, congrats on the Jag! Superb
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Thanks, David. I'm not familiar with them. I would never have gotten by the Looie katorze styling if not for you recommendation.shadowplay wrote:Oh well played Geoff, she's a pale beauty.
And in smoke-filled rooms of electric sound
A legend is built around
The Snow Queen
D
It's lovely enough that I'm considering breaking my long standing vow to never anthropomorphize these things (thanks to DC for the easy nickname). (I'll probably go back to the simple identifiers in a few weeks: "the white fender" or the like).
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^^^
I didn't know that was even a video, I just harvested the link. I bought that single because I knew the original but mainly because it had a barn owl on the sleeve.
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I didn't know that was even a video, I just harvested the link. I bought that single because I knew the original but mainly because it had a barn owl on the sleeve.
D
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what? You didn't throw down $8k for that Burgundy Mist Jaguar at Thunder Road? You'd need a James Brown pimp suit to play it in public, but damn!
Actually I think it's the same BM Jag I've seen for sale in Seattle three times before and it goes up $2k each time with 3-4 years in between.
Actually I think it's the same BM Jag I've seen for sale in Seattle three times before and it goes up $2k each time with 3-4 years in between.
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Ha, nah. That seems more or less in line with the Offset Inflation Index (OII) over the last few years. (Note that the OII has been lagging behind the BLOOZ* curve but seems to be catching up).fuzzjunkie wrote:what? You didn't throw down $8k for that Burgundy Mist Jaguar at Thunder Road? You'd need a James Brown pimp suit to play it in public, but damn!
Actually I think it's the same BM Jag I've seen for sale in Seattle three times before and it goes up $2k each time with 3-4 years in between.
I thought "that's a really nicely relic'ed thin skin" when I first saw the BMM jaguar on their wall.
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Wow ...
Nice job
Nice job
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The Carl Wilson model! I had one exactly like that around 15 years ago. It had the original headstock (but the logo was completely destroyed) and a poorly refinished body. I opted to have the whole thing restored. Man that was a great playing and sounding guitar.
I also picked up a white '63 shortly thereafter. For whatever reason that one never played or sounded quite as nice as the '64.
For some strange reason '64 seems to have been a great year for fenders. I've played very few dogs from '64.
Nice grab!!!
I also picked up a white '63 shortly thereafter. For whatever reason that one never played or sounded quite as nice as the '64.
For some strange reason '64 seems to have been a great year for fenders. I've played very few dogs from '64.
Nice grab!!!