Help identifying original vs refinish 63 Jaguar OLY White

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Help identifying original vs refinish 63 Jaguar OLY White

Post by cmd2kx » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:58 am

Greetings,

I spotted this on eBay and am curious about everyones opinion on it ;

https://www.ebay.com/itm/263495130637

My guess is refinished. If it is, what would it be valued at?

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Re: Help identifying original vs refinish 63 Jaguar OLY White

Post by amv » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:39 pm

Yikes, fake-ass decal alert. Not only is the headstock obviously refinished, but it's not done well.

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Re: Help identifying original vs refinish 63 Jaguar OLY White

Post by cmd2kx » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:50 am

Thanks for your assistance. What would you value a poorly refinished 63 at?

Can a neck refinished in this manner be easily remedied ?

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Re: Help identifying original vs refinish 63 Jaguar OLY White

Post by amv » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:32 am

My expertise is mostly grounded in decal nerdiness, so I'll leave it to our resident vintage experts to get into the more substantial question of the finish. A couple things that stand out, though:

- The shots of the body look nice enough, but they're fairly low-res and just blurry enough that I wouldn't draw any definitive conclusions from them.
- There appears to be some significant orange peel texture in the shot of the neck plate, which is not what I'd expect from a quality refin, but I'd want to see more to get a better sense of whether or not that's indicative of the finish as a whole.
- The guitar looks fairly dirty, which either means it hasn't been looked after, or the refin itself is just very old.
- I'm curious about the streaks on the headstock around the tuner peg holes. At first it just looked like age or grime, but I'm almost wondering if the original color was something like CAR or BMM (with a matching headstock), and we're looking at an incomplete stripping.
- Then again, there also appears to be a dark streak near the base of the neck, just above where it bolts into the body, and there wouldn't be any paint there, so who knows.

Sorry I can't be of more use, but I'm eager to hear what others think.
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Re: Help identifying original vs refinish 63 Jaguar OLY White

Post by amv » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:40 am

I will say this, though: If you took this thing home for just north of $2,500, and the guitar is in otherwise decent condition, another $500 spent on a high-quality refin would mean you get a freshly cleaned up 1963 Jaguar for around $3k, done more or less to your specs. That's not a bad price, especially since you'll be able to choose the color yourself. Assuming you've got a halfway decent luthier around, I think a very good outcome is possible.

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