The Synth Thread...

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by oid » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:08 pm

Poly800 is still cheap and good, the toy of the Korg Poly series, but still better built than things like the MS20 mini.

Matrix 6/6R/1000/Cheetah are great, not sure on the price these days though, great synths that can do alot, interface is not for everyone. 1000/Cheetah needs a computer or external programmer to program but are the cheapest of the bunch.

The blofeld is pretty much a modern update of the Matrix family and the interface is really aimed towards doing the poly thing, but it has a great deal more in it for those willing to learn its architecture.

Those odd early digital synths, Korg DWs and Casio CZs, make lots of fun sounds, CZs are difficult for most to get more traditional poly sounds from, but they are in there.
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by eggwheat » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:55 am

StevenO wrote:
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I alway loved the Korg Poly 61...one of the most neglected Korgs but has a really great tone. Dirt cheap until the last couple of years..
That's actually exactly what I'm looking for but the prices lately have been going up quite a bit! They're going for like $700 around here. I used to see them for $300-$500. I'd only pay the higher end of that bracket if I knew it had been serviced (cleaned up if needed, battery replaced, etc). I love the way they sound!

I know they're not as good, but I also really dig the Poly-800 as well. Thoughts on those?

Yeh...super underrated for years..mainly cos its really not pretty, boring looking..no knobs etc..but under the hood you have the Korg OTA filter like the MS-20..SSM hardware EG's and and a pair of detunable DCO's! Theres one on Ebay uk for £300($500)... I'd guess the M version with midi is more desirable.

I've never laid hands on the Poly-800.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by Maggieo » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:51 am

Zork wrote:
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OK, should I sell my Little Phatty Tribute Edition and buy a Subsequent37?
Depends. The Little Phatty is much more a classic Moog with an overall much more elegant sound and attitude. The Subsequent is more aggressive and "modern" but has of course a much better control layout. I'd say if you want the sounds a Moog is typically known for, keep the Phatty. If you want a smoother workflow with lots of knobs, classic Moog sound and don't care for presets, get the Grandmother. If you want all the knobs, modern sound and the abbility to modulate everything with everything, get the Subsequent but it'll kind of lack the abillity to make soft and smooth sounds compared to the Phatty.
Cool, thanks!

I think I'll keep the Phatty and save up for a Grandmother.
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Post by OffYourFace » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:13 pm

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Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:39 pm
I alway loved the Korg Poly 61...one of the most neglected Korgs but has a really great tone. Dirt cheap until the last couple of years..
yeah I agree! I love the P61. I came across a near mint Polysix at Guitar Center for only $599 (idiots admitted they threw out the original shipping box!) but I let my boss buy it because I loathe them. In my mind, I was rewarded with the $250 1979 Korg MS-20 (early version) that popped up on Reverb :P

I'd like to have a Poly61M but I don't need it.
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Post by budda12ax7 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:25 am

I had a Korg Poly800 for years and years.....it had some good sounds, but I never liked it. Tweaking was always so difficult and you need the cassette upgrade to upload new sounds or something. It did teach me about synth stuff and I used it live many times. I put a phase 90 pedal on it and it sounded pretty good. Worth it if you can find one cheap,,,,

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:23 am

I decided to move all of my synths to another room. I plugged in my Juno 106 and OH BOY. Low output except when the chorus is on, then it's super loud and distorted.

Fun! :-/

I'm guessing the remedy isn't to just bring it back into the other room... :fp:

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by Telliot » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:48 am

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Oof. :squint:

It sounds like something in the amp stage got knocked around when you moved it?
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:52 am

No clue, but I literally moved it twenty feet. ::)

I'ma give it a big ol' shake and see what happens. :ph34r:

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Post by Telliot » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:12 pm

Attaboy.
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Post by Maggieo » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:36 pm

StevenO wrote:
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No clue, but I literally moved it twenty feet. ::)

I'ma give it a big ol' shake and see what happens. :ph34r:
Just get some wood wedges and some hammers and...oh, never mind. That's how you repair a submarine that's taking on water. But hey! HAMMERS!!! :ph34r:
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:49 pm

I'll give it the Office Space treatment.

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Post by OffYourFace » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:04 am

StevenO wrote:
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I'll give it the Office Space treatment.
Check the attenuator switch on the back (output level; low medium high). It’s always an issue. We usually mod them so they’re always in the high mode.
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by oid » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:39 am

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Check the attenuator switch on the back (output level; low medium high). It’s always an issue. We usually mod them so they’re always in the high mode.
That would not account for the high output when the chorus is on, most likely the chorus switches or associated circuitry.
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Post by OffYourFace » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:44 am

oid wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:39 am
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Check the attenuator switch on the back (output level; low medium high). It’s always an issue. We usually mod them so they’re always in the high mode.
That would not account for the high output when the chorus is on, most likely the chorus switches or associated circuitry.
Sick.

It’s just a suggestion. We can take guesses all day until our typing fingers bleed but you and I aren’t there in person so it’s a waste of time. He just moved it to another room. My instinct says output switch or output jacks, especially if he’s running it in stereo.

I’ve worked on over a hundred Juno 106s in the last two years. It’s always the same shit.... unless your intern blows up the psu with his shaky hands.
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by oid » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:48 am

OffYourFace wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:44 am
oid wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:39 am
OffYourFace wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:04 am
Check the attenuator switch on the back (output level; low medium high). It’s always an issue. We usually mod them so they’re always in the high mode.
That would not account for the high output when the chorus is on, most likely the chorus switches or associated circuitry.
Sick.

It’s just a suggestion. We can take guesses all day until our typing fingers bleed but you and I aren’t there in person so it’s a waste of time. He just moved it to another room. My instinct says output switch or output jacks, especially if he’s running it in stereo.

I’ve worked on over a hundred Juno 106s in the last two years. It’s always the same shit.... unless your intern blows up the psu with his shaky hands.
Sorry.

EDIT: Fuck diplomacy, if you have been in over 100 of these than you know the circuit. Explain to me, in the full technical sense, how either the output jacks or level switch can account for the output being quiet except when the chorus is engaged.

There is a slim chance the jacks could cause such an issue, it has been awhile since I have looked at the schematic, but I doubt it, it is certainly not the level switch, unless physics are what broke when he moved it.

EDIT: Checked the schematic, jacks can not cause this either, chorus and clean signals are summed by opamp IC6 before the level switch or output jacks, there is no interaction, they affect both chorus and clean equal in all possible modes of failure.
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