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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:51 am

I just missed out on a cheap Roland JX8P. I know they're 80s digital craptastic, but I've been wanting one of these for awhile now and called to buy one that just came up for sale and another guy was on the other line giving his credit card info. Dang.

I need a good poly companion to my Juno 106 and I think that would have been awesome. If I can land a JX3P for a decent price, I'd be happy too!

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Post by eggwheat » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:22 am

Waddya mean? jx8p is analogue..not as fat and gloopy as a Juno 106 but very nice.

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Post by StevenO » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:27 am

For sure! I just mean they're not as hugely popular and sought after like other analog synths of the era. I dig'em!

Oh I just realized what you mean... I wrote digital. I meant sterile, but I find them fairly capable of warn pads and brass sounds. Even so, I dig digital too. My Roland Sh-01A is lovely and one of my most used synths (the poly option is incredibly useful and It's midi!).

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Post by Telliot » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:43 am

StevenO wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:27 am
I find them fairly capable of warn pads and brass sounds
mmmmmmmmwarnnnnpadssssss :?
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Post by StevenO » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:27 am

Warm!

But yeah, a tad bummed about that. *Shrug*

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Post by Telliot » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:14 pm

;)
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Post by OffYourFace » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:19 pm

The only thing analog about Junos and JX stuff is the filter. The Juno 60 has an analog EG, the rest are digital I believe.

DCOs are half analog and half digital I guess.

IMO, having both a 106 and JX8P is a bit boring unless you really love the Roland sound.

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Post by StevenO » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:55 pm

I already have a couple of moogs and three Rolands! I know what I like. :shifty:

But hey for the price, I could have made money off it too.

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Post by oid » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:35 pm

DCO just means that the information that tells the oscillator what pitch it should be is in the form of ones and zeros instead of a continuous changing voltage, it tells you nothing about what type of oscillator it is. The Juno DCO is an interesting beast, it uses an analog application of a very digital intergrated circuit. The binary counter, but you can wire up a counter so instead of the output increasing one binary unit each step, it increases one voltage unit each step creating a stair case wave form, aka saw. The output is stepped just like a digital oscillator, but there are no ones and zeros or DAC so it is certainly analog under digital control. This is what sets the Juno apart from the digital oscillators of the time and why it lacks the zipper noise. All the wave shipping is old standard analog circuits, which helps keep things sounding analog. I suppose the most accurate way to describe the Junos oscillator is by calling it Virtual Digital, analog mimicing digital, but that only applies to the saw wave.
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Post by StevenO » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:21 am

Out of curiosity, what are some other Roland, Korg, Yamaha, etc poly synths that I should look out for that are the $300-$800 range? Keep in mind that I am in the barren wasteland of Toronto so things aren't as plentiful.

There's a JX-8P for $600 locally, but that's too much in my mind, since I'm used to seeing these go for $350-$450.

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Post by Maggieo » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:49 am

OK, should I sell my Little Phatty Tribute Edition and buy a Subsequent37?
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Post by StevenO » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 pm

I haven't played the Subsequent37 but I think for the price, I'd rather have a couple of different synths. You could get a lot of use out of a Moog Grandmother + something else.

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Post by eggwheat » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:39 pm

I alway loved the Korg Poly 61...one of the most neglected Korgs but has a really great tone. Dirt cheap until the last couple of years..

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Post by Zork » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:42 pm

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OK, should I sell my Little Phatty Tribute Edition and buy a Subsequent37?
Depends. The Little Phatty is much more a classic Moog with an overall much more elegant sound and attitude. The Subsequent is more aggressive and "modern" but has of course a much better control layout. I'd say if you want the sounds a Moog is typically known for, keep the Phatty. If you want a smoother workflow with lots of knobs, classic Moog sound and don't care for presets, get the Grandmother. If you want all the knobs, modern sound and the abbility to modulate everything with everything, get the Subsequent but it'll kind of lack the abillity to make soft and smooth sounds compared to the Phatty.

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:55 pm

eggwheat wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:39 pm
I alway loved the Korg Poly 61...one of the most neglected Korgs but has a really great tone. Dirt cheap until the last couple of years..
That's actually exactly what I'm looking for but the prices lately have been going up quite a bit! They're going for like $700 around here. I used to see them for $300-$500. I'd only pay the higher end of that bracket if I knew it had been serviced (cleaned up if needed, battery replaced, etc). I love the way they sound!

I know they're not as good, but I also really dig the Poly-800 as well. Thoughts on those?

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