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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by guitarsammy » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:53 pm

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That's fair enough, and I don't begrudge anyone who has the patience to learn the ins and out of their synth and really get into it. I was only speaking for myself and my own shortcomings.
;D And I don’t begrudge you your one-knob per function preference either.

While I’d never call myself a sound designer (just a tinkerer), I guess the DeepMind does lend itself to that really (unless you just run it as a more-or-less Juno clone) so it’s perhaps not the best synth for someone who wants something more definitely and obviously immediate.

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Post by mackerelmint » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:02 pm

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I hate menu diving too. I had an Alpha Juno and a JX-3P in the past, without programmers, and have had a few later digital synths with complicated menu driven interfaces. All of these were sold because of the lack of programmability.

For these reasons, I was deeply sceptical on the DeepMind, but kept reading online that the interface is so good, it isn’t a problem. So I took a gamble.

And it’s absolutely fine. It’s possible to run it as a Juno clone and basically once it’s set up, never use the menus except to change patches.

However, if you run it as a more powerful, “beyond Juno” synth (and you really should), the menus are so well thought-out and easily accessible from the right place on the panel, it becomes second nature. Genuinely so, and within a couple of hours’ use I wasn’t thinking about it at all.

It’s so “deep”, with so many controls (and all the FX algorithms), I don’t think they could realistically ever have had one knob per function.
I believe that. I've never heard anyone say otherwise, in fact. Everything I've heard or read about the menu is that it's very easy to wrap your head around.

I honestly just don't trust myself to be up to the minor challenge. I'm like that with everything: if the interface/menu/whatever isn't totally intuitive for me specifically, it just doesn't ever seem to click for me now matter how much work I put into it. My brain just says "fuck this thing and fuck you too for making me have to deal with it." :fp: It's like trying to give a cat a bath, but way harder.

So like Todd, I am strictly one knob per function. If you can attach an external programmer to something that doesn't have that and get that kind of functionality, that's cool too.
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Post by redchapterjubilee » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:58 am

Nine times out of ten when I'm playing my Juno I leave it on manual and don't even mess with the presets. Does Deep Mind have a manual mode?

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Post by guitarsammy » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:52 am

redchapterjubilee wrote:
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Nine times out of ten when I'm playing my Juno I leave it on manual and don't even mess with the presets. Does Deep Mind have a manual mode?
I’m away from home at the moment and can’t remember the name of it (and I’m also not sure exactly how to word this), but there’s a setting that enables the current position of all sliders to generate the active tone, and no patch memory is active (although of course this can then be saved as a patch if required).

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Post by redchapterjubilee » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:14 pm

Got it. So it does have a manual setting like the Junos.

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Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:50 pm

I need to try a Deepmind one of these days. I was originally interested, and then lost interest, but they seem to keep popping up in my head and on my YouTube feeds. Is it totally a poly synth, i.e. are you able to play chords, etc.?
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Post by mackerelmint » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:52 pm

Yeah, they have either 6 or 12 voices.
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Post by Jaguar018 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:58 am

mackerelmint wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:02 pm
I honestly just don't trust myself to be up to the minor challenge. I'm like that with everything: if the interface/menu/whatever isn't totally intuitive for me specifically, it just doesn't ever seem to click for me now matter how much work I put into it. My brain just says "fuck this thing and fuck you too for making me have to deal with it." :fp: It's like trying to give a cat a bath, but way harder.
Preach sister. :)

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by StevenO » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:10 am

I've been eyeing those Behringers again... I absolutely love their Model D. I honestly think that's one of the best gear purchases I've made in recent years. It's really hard to get a bad sound out of that thing... Which leads me to...

I'm thinking of ridding myself of my Moog Prodigy and just picking up a Behringer K2 (MS-20 Clone) and a Behringer Pro-1 (Pro One clone). I love the look of the Prodigy, but lets be real... That's not enough justification to own it. For some reason, I've just never really jelled with it, but I feel like I could justify the Pro-1 and K2 more, especially given their size.

Or, I could just pocket the cash. :whistle:

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Post by tdbajus » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:48 am

I wish Behringer would make a polyphonic model D.

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Post by StevenO » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:18 am

I'd prefer a Prophet 5-alike if that were the case.

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Post by Telliot » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:28 am

When’s their Behrinheim coming out?
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Post by Maggieo » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:26 pm

Someone sedate me before I buy a Behringer Pro-1.

I'm not even close to fulling understanding my Model-D and Grandmother!!!
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Post by Telliot » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:52 pm

Maggieo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:26 pm
Someone sedate me before I buy a Behringer Pro-1.

I'm not even close to fulling understanding my Model-D and Grandmother!!!
I want a Minimoog so badly. The Matriarch would be amazing, too.

Part of me wants to sell guitars and buy more synths. :fp:
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Post by redchapterjubilee » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:46 am

I’ve been on the waiting list for the Pro-1 clone since January. If it’s anywhere as good at Sequential as the Model D is at Moog I’m sure it will be well worth the $300. And I will do whatever is necessary to get the OB-X clone.

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