The Synth Thread...

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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by oid » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:35 pm

The Blofeld is turning out to be a fantastic synth and quite fun. The nice big screen is poorly utilized though, filled mostly with eye candy instead of useful information. The modulation matrix has its modifiers after all of the mod slots instead of after the applicable mod slot, so if you are editing mod1 and you want to give it a modifier you must scroll through 32 pages to get there. It is not to bad though, main knob works reliably and smoothly, I suspect after a little more time I will be able to flip to the needed page without effort. Beyond those two issues and the previously mentioned FM quirk I find it well thought out and a powerful little synth. It sounds very much like a Waldorf but quite different than the MicroWave and Q it borrows from and has a very enjoyable interface that only took a few minutes to settle into, although it is reversed from the Micron's. After a couple of years with the Micron being my only synth my hands have become very accustomed to it and I am finding myself occasionally reaching for knobs in places were they are not or editing it with my hands crossed, right hand on the main encoder and left on the matrix.

Think the Micron may beat it out on all fronts other than interface though, it is considerably more powerful, curious to see how my views change as I get to know the Blofeld. They overlap each other a little more than I would like but they are both unique enough to differentiate themselves, their voices seem to compliment each other quite well.

I have been trying hard to avoid building another synth collection, but I really want more.
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by mackerelmint » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:01 pm

Hehehe.

Yeah, Blofelds are great. They really do sound and feel Waldorf without being any of their other synths. Honestly I like the way they sound much better than the Q. And they've been around long enough at this point that they have the bugs worked out. They used to really be glitchy.

I tried the Largo, and it's got the sound, but good lord it's a pain to program. Not that it's poorly laid out, they just tried too hard to make it visually interesting and it ended up being a mess. I hated it.
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by oid » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:27 pm

The Q was just kinda blah sounding, they made the mistake of trying to follow the market and released a VA instead of just being Waldorf.

I am really liking these AD2S2R envelopes, you can use them as a delayed ADSR by turning the attack level to zero, the attack rate becomes the delay time with D1 being the new attack. The attack response ends up being backward, which is fine on quick attacks, can be odd sounding for longer settings, but you can always change the response by modulating the the D1 rate with another envelope.

So far no Saturday errands or chores successfully completed or even started, but many hours of synth fun.
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Post by Zork » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:39 am

I had the Blofeld for some time now but will eventually sell it. Here's why: I just got a Moog Sub37 few weeks earlier and thought the Blofeld would be a good polyphonic companion. Turns out I just don't use polyphonic synths sounds that much and for the few occasions I might as well use my old Microkorg. I already know the Microkorg by heart forwards and backwards and still like its sound a lot, so it's just very natural for me to use it. And to be honest, if I have a new Sub37 and another new synth to explore, it's at least to me very clear with which one I choose to spend more time with.

Also the sounds I programed in the Blofeld weren't actual synthesizer sounds, but more emulations of other instruments, mainly Mellotrons, organs, even more Mellotron, pianos and did I mention Mellotrons? So, next step is to sell the blofeld and wait until the Mellotron Micro appears on the used market because that will provide the sounds I really want beside my Moog. And for the rest I have my Microkorg.

That doesn't mean the Blofeld is a bad or boring synthesizer. Quite the contrary, it is absolutely mindblowing awesome and one of the best you can get, especially for the money. I just don't need it. I hope one of my bandmembers buys it because it can do very interesting and complex and just very good sounds.

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Post by Fuzzbuzz » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:50 pm

I’ve been having a lot of fun with my Grandmother the last few days. It’s nice getting back to basics and using my imagination to explore sounds with this thing! The possibilities are endless it seems. Loving the onboard spring reverb. Just a fun synth.Image

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Post by Zork » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:07 pm

I'm wondering: why is it that in 2018 it's still only one (according to the internet) stand alone hardware device from the mid 90s that can deliver some old school organs, pianos and other keys like mellotrons in a compact format and decent sound quality? It still comes down to the E-Mu Vintage Keys. And while it's actually pretty good I still wonder why there isn't another device around with a better sound, more convenient programming and a smaller form factor for this purpose. Does not everyone look for all these classic sounds? There must be a market, right? ???

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Post by mackerelmint » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:01 pm

There is, but the cycle of old equipment becoming desirable again just hasn't caught up to the vintage keys yet. Buy 'em up now and give it a couple years, they'll start appreciating in value.
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Re: The Synth Thread...

Post by oid » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:44 pm

Zork wrote:
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Does not everyone look for all these classic sounds? There must be a market, right? ???
I think the Nord Electro and Stage has that market more or less cornered right now.

But there was a good number of such boxes around the turn of the century, everyone had an organ/electric piano on the market, the Hammond name was resurrected, mellotron came back, it was everywhere. Then Nord came along and one upped them all.

But Vintage Keys will become a hot thing again, eventually someone is going to write a hit with one and everyone will be out to copy that sound.
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Post by OffYourFace » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:05 pm

In 2015 I had the chance to buy a Jupiter 8 for $5k. I thought that was a crazy price.
Three years later, they’re selling for $15k

I guess I’ll never own one.
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Post by Jaguar018 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am

OffYourFace wrote:
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In 2015 I had the chance to buy a Jupiter 8 for $5k. I thought that was a crazy price.
Three years later, they’re selling for $15k

I guess I’ll never own one.
If you can find a time machine for less than 10k you might still be able to make a profit! :w00t:

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Post by StevenO » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:49 am

A Jupiter 8 sold locally about 6 months ago for 10k. In US money that's like 7k. It was for sale for a loooong time.

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Post by OffYourFace » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:57 am

StevenO wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:49 am
A Jupiter 8 sold locally about 6 months ago for 10k. In US money that's like 7k. It was for sale for a loooong time.
Weird. Was it on eBay or reverb? It could’ve been an earlier 12-bit model (auto tune doesn’t work as well as the revised 14-but model).

A few months ago, we sold one to Mac Miller. He came in a few times himself. He was so sweet. :(
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Post by StevenO » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:19 am

Not entirely sure, but this is the Instagram post from when it went up for sale:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTCoayigUTJ ... 3vo3mhcebo

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Post by oid » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:17 am

At $10k the Jupiter8 does not give you much synth for the money, really got to love that sound or your collection to justify that.

I am on the hunt for one more synth, the thing is, having a good modulation matrix is fairly important for me, which rules out a good number of synths. Some polyphony would be nice, as well as at least two voice, but I would consider any good versatile synth. I have debated a Virus of some flavor, but its matrix is fairly limited, it relies more on its effects than its engine, the specs are fairly impressive otherwise and the A, B and Snow can be had fairly cheap, but I suspect they would not suit me in the long run.

As of now i have a Blofeld, so probably do not want another Waldorf despite most of their offerings fitting the bill, and an Alesis Micron, which only rules out those few synth it shares its engine with, the Ion and the MiniAK. They come so close to filling my needs, but not quite, the Blofeld has a touch of Waldorf on most everything it does, it is not as bad a the Microwaves and Q, but its voices tend to blend together, if you have more than a few tracks of Blofeld in a song it has a tendency to make everything else sound out of place.

Any recommendations? Under $1kUSD would be nice.
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Post by StevenO » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:43 am

I think at this point, while the Jupiter 8 sounds great, it's one of those '59 Les Paul kind of things. Something to have for the collection, something that will continue to rise in value, etc.

I wouldn't kick one out of bed, but I also don't particularly long for one either.

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